The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby bonnie » Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:14 pm

KCStudly wrote:Thanks Atomic. We had a power outage for about 4 hrs the other night (wind) and today it has warmed up enough to snow. Tough to say with the wind, but at least 1-1/2 inches.

I know that is chump change for most regions, but it is enough to make me think twice about heading up the hill tonight. :thinking:

Tomorrow is supposed to be warmer.



Better to be safe than sorry. Was almost balmy today at 23F. 8)
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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby KCStudly » Fri Jan 09, 2015 9:02 pm

Actually, by the time the work day was done it had stopped snowing and the roads were good, so I went ahead and made the pilgrimage.

Didn't get anything done, except to refuel the heaters and stare at the shovel looking for inspiration on the mounting brackets. Also pulled the BatteryMINDer out and had a look at that. Need to figure out how I'm going to train and route all of the wiring. There is plenty of room on the ledge for the components, but the wires won't want to be bent too severely, so that will take up space.

Caught up with Karl and he reminded me that he had some nice 4x4 chunks of cedar and Ipe that were provided as samples for a railing he worked on. Might be just the thing I need to whittle away for the tool mounts. I'll check that out tomorrow.
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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby KCStudly » Sat Jan 10, 2015 11:39 pm

Finally a little progress. Sometimes it seems as if I have a total lack of focus. First I’m working on putting foam on the cabin. Then I detour onto the tongue box. Then, while the TB spackle is drying I switch to the shovel mount (which is a prerequisite to finishing the front foam). Now I'm stuck into that task. Like a ping pong ball it seems.

Anyway, to decide on the blocking to mount the brackets for the shovel and axe, I figured I needed to settle the design for those items. Yesterday I finalized the shovel handle bracket idea and today, instead of sanding on the TB, I decided to run with the idea.

The two Ipe chunks (sitting on top) were each less than half the length of the cedar (underneath, all 4x4 nominal or 3-1/2x3-1/2 actual). However, the Ipe each weighed more than the entire length of cedar by itself. Suffice to say that the Ipe is like rock or steel. Karl says you can tap it like steel and it will hold the threads! I decided to keep that for something decorative and use the lighter weight cedar for the shovel mounts.
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Here I have used the bandsaw to cut a semicircular trough thru the bottom of the blank. This will receive the stirrup handle of the shovel. The cut out plug was smoothed off a bit, wrapped in sandpaper, and used as a block to sand out the saw lines inside of the trough (in progress at the time of the pic).
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Three more cuts on the bandsaw to give the piece some contour and allow it to register into the stirrup of the shovel.
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After some additional trimming, some planing, lots of hand sanding and rounding over the outside edges with the router, you can see in this sequence how the shovel handle will be captured and kept from sliding down when tilted into position (imagine that the table top is the front wall of the cabin).
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This is the lower bracket. It will keep the shovel from twisting and prevent the spade from hitting the painted canvas. It will also hold the weight of the shovel and make it easier to fasten the latch on the upper bracket. I’ll drill for a couple of fasteners that will go thru the flat of the triangular area and into thread inserts in the blocking that will be glued into the front wall. I'll be able to remove the brackets for trips where these tools won't be needed.

I also worked on the upper bracket that is very similar to the 2nd pic above. It will cradle the shaft of the shovel handle, holding the spade away from the wall and will get a hinged or pivoting bar that will latch the shaft into place. I must have forgotten to take a picture of that. The mounting bolts for that will be countersunk down in the trough, so they will be inaccessible when the latch is made.

I also brought my axe with me (since I had to go out to the shed to get the snow shovels out for the season anyway and thought I might get to those brackets, too), but before starting on the mounts I got distracted sharpening it. Axes don’t really need to be that sharp to function, but putting a keen edge on a useful tool is something I enjoy doing. Unfortunately, this time I carelessly bumped a fingertip on the cutting edge and got a pretty good flap… springing a bit of a leak. All in all a minor injury, but the card I had in my wallet said it had been about 9-1/2 yrs since my last tetanus shot (I think I may have had one since, but not according to my wallet), and having been stored in the shed there was some trace rust on the edge of the blade before I had started sharpening, so better safe than sorry, I took a trip to the walk-in center. A little cleanser, some glue, a shot in the arm (feels like a slug) and 5 days of antibiotics, and I am good to go.
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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby Wobbly Wheels » Sat Jan 10, 2015 11:57 pm

Wow, that's a much more elegant solution than a couple of pole straps !
And yeah, what Karl says about ipe is true - it's used a lot in boats for things like corner moldings and standoff cleats that, by their nature, are likely to get bumped and bruised. When you drill it, predrill your holes as though you're working aluminum, not wood. There's nothing worse than the "tink" of a head twisting off a stainless screw...

Speaking of bumps and bruises, I'm sure you know that letting the red stuff out is akin to letting the magic smoke out of electrical equipment, right ?
The worst part is that nothing lifts blood out of wood grain :lol:
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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby KCStudly » Sun Jan 11, 2015 1:06 am

Wobbly Wheels wrote:Wow, that's a much more elegant solution than...

Thanks WW. Every time I craft something for this build I think about how #2 will be so much the polar opposite (plywood and paint). I'm sure I could have bought something ready made, or come up with a much simpler solution, but I like to design things. When I do there always seems to be the same elements: functionality/ergonomics, ability to produce (cost), and appearance.

Since the wood was free and the design only requires the tools at hand, the ability to produce comes down to my time. By spending a little (ahem, a lot :oops: ) more time I can zero in on the functionality and ergonomics, hopefully making the item that much more useful/successful. If I spend a little effort (time) on the finishing touches, it just might look good, too. So as you can see, it really just boils down to time.

Truth be told, I should save this kind of thing for that last little 5/ct that is the "not done yet" list, but it is easy to get distracted by the fun projects. Besides, I need to work out the blocking details. ;)
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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby dales133 » Sun Jan 11, 2015 2:57 am

Very nice work kc my friend.
I'm very envious of the machinery you have access to it does make things alot easier and safer to push the envelope so to speak.
I get frustrated with my crappa aldi table saw but it's still invaluable.
All my power tools are good quality but you just can't beat proper stationary machinery.
That shovel holders a thing of beauty. I like that old shovel too
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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby ghcoe » Sun Jan 11, 2015 9:34 am

Like I said before, this is a museum piece. I would be afraid to take it anywhere.

At least you have the build thread to prove how many man hours you have in it, if anyone where to ever "total" it.
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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby KCStudly » Sun Jan 11, 2015 1:05 pm

Thanks Dale. The shovel came from a swap meet. I think I gave $2 or $5 US for it. Perfect for my needs.

ghcoe wrote:...if anyone where to ever "total" it.

:frightened: Shudder at the thought.

Truthfully, I'm not thinking about it that way. The creativity and man hours are just part of the journey. A big part of the journey, yes, but just a part of it. The vision that drives it all is getting out to Poet Creek. Maybe it's not the most practical or expedient way to go about it, but what fun is a trip that moves in a straight line?

Thank you for the accolades.
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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby GPW » Sun Jan 11, 2015 8:52 pm

Quote: "if anyone where to ever..." With all that experience , why you could build a new one in a third the time ... :thumbsup:

The first one always takes "forever" .... ( as we well know ) :roll:
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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby KCStudly » Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:31 pm

I guess my issue is too much detail. I can see how life can get in the way and builds can run hot and cold at times dragging things out, but it seems to me like I am staying on it pretty steady and it's still not done. To me the details are part of the big picture, but it is so easy to get wrapped up in them... especially in the winter when opportunities to glue are limited. Can't assemble? Can't apply finishes? Whittle some wood. :)

Today's update next.
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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby KCStudly » Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:41 pm

Just 2-1/2 hrs in today. Irony, on the way to Mecca I went left instead of right to swing by the gas station, and there out at the curb with some other junk headed for “the tip” was a perfectly good roto-molded plastic tongue box (seen here on the snow covered deck of The Charcoal Briquette, my resurrected UT).
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Came complete with large fender washers and mounting bolts, a couple of ratchet straps, a bungee cord, a padlock but no key, and a heavy duty weld on D-ring that didn’t stay welded on for someone.
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Too good to pass up. I’m sure we will find a use for it on one of the many trailers we have around.

Here’s that pic of the upper shovel mount that I missed from yesterday.
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With those two pretty well sorted out, at least as far as figuring out the blocking footprint, it was time to move on to the axe (edge guard stayed on the whole time :roll: ).

The best way I could see to capture the axe from sliding up or down without encapsulating the head (which I didn’t want to do due to the potential for capturing moisture) was to grab it above the knuckle on the handle under the head. Here the handle is sitting on a 1x3 x 6 inch long piece of Maple straddled by two additional pieces that I coped out on the bandsaw.
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I left the two coped pieces long for now so that I would have a little something more to hang on to while working them.
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I will fabricate a SS hasp that will hinge over the top of this and my RAM locking hand knob will keep it secure.

To capture the bottom of the handle I started building up this little saddle bracket. It will locate but won’t collect debris or moisture, and requires no action or hardware to operate, just stick the end of the handle in and register the knuckle into the coped upper mount.
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There is plenty more trimming to do, I want to slope the tops of these where I can to shed water, and I spent some time working out the hardware requirements, but at least now I can figure out the blocking for the front wall and where it needs to be located.
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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby GPW » Mon Jan 12, 2015 7:46 am

KC, the only thing that really matters is that you’re having FUN !!! :thumbsup: 8) :D
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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby KCStudly » Mon Jan 12, 2015 7:55 am

:yes: :thumbsup:
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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby GPW » Mon Jan 12, 2015 7:58 am

And Nice find on that box too ... 8) Isn’t that always the way .... you’re building a box , and then find one ? ... :duh: Oh well, just a nice box for your new BBQ trailer ... which is obviously turning into a “salvage” project ... :applause: :beer:
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Re: The Poet Creek Express - Foamie Hybrid

Postby tony.latham » Mon Jan 12, 2015 9:08 pm

KC:

Your craftsmanship continues to amaze me. I hope to see that shovel in a camp somewhere, sometime. And I'm not talking about a camp photograph.

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