Finally going a lil more public with Project FireBeetle!

[Sheddie]

Thanks Frank, sooo... whats on YOUR wish list of things in a 5x10? (pretend money no option for sake of this question!)

Basically we wouldn't change anything on what we have, although, as my wife just commented, may be brakes for when we are towing with one of the smaller cars.

[Socal Tom]

Thanks Frank, sooo... whats on YOUR wish list of things in a 5x10? (pretend money no option for sake of this question!)

I'm not Frank, but I'll throw out my wishlist for a 5x10
1) At least a queen size bed
2) Place to wash up ( brush teeth etc in the am) A small table on the side with a wash basin and a mirror would do
3) Easy access to water ( could either be a tank/pump system or a cube turned on its side) preferably protected somewhat from freezing
4) Stove top and oven ( I like my cinnamon rolls in the am)
5) Drawer space for storing cookware etc. ( I prefer to put the dry food in a plastic bin with a lid)
6) 12V compressor Fridge/freezer 35 to 40L size is adequate for 2 to 5 days.
7) Built in on demand hot water system similar to this http://www.amazon.com/Camp-Chef-HWD5-Triton-Heater/dp/B001J4AU2E/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1425093138&sr=1-1&keywords=camp+chef+water+heater. If this is inset into the side wall, then The hot water can be used for showers/ dishwashing etc.
Propane bottle on the front of the TD with permanent pipping to the galley.
9) a place to put shoes. ( when you climb into bed at night you don't want to leave shoes on the ground, incase of bugs or just cold weather, so some place to put them inside would be great)
10) a place to put clothes in the cabin, and a smaller place to put quick access items i.e. phone, ipad, toiletries, so you don't have to dig through a bin of clothes to find the small things.
11) Air conditioning
12) A generator, or provisions for carrying a portable one
13) enough height to us some sort of porta potty in the cabin ( I usually roll up my bed when traveling, If necessary it would be good to be able to climb in the back and use the bath room if needed) ( also a place to put said porta potty, if you use something like this http://www.amazon.com/Reliance-Products-Collapsible-Portable-Toilet/dp/B0024OAQ3Q/ref=sr_1_sc_2?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1425093602&sr=1-2-spell&keywords=potable+toilet It could be folded up into a smaller space under the floor which would also provide extra height for using it)
14) a place to carry stuff outside. Tongue boxes are great, but mine can be filled with a generator, and that's about all that fits. You need a place to carry firewood, or trash bags ( or used potty bags) that isn't in the car or the trailer)

That's all I can think of for now.
Tom

[Sheddie]

Thanks Frank, sooo... whats on YOUR wish list of things in a 5x10? (pretend money no option for sake of this question!)

I'm not Frank, but I'll throw out my wishlist for a 5x10
1) At least a queen size bed
2) Place to wash up ( brush teeth etc in the am) A small table on the side with a wash basin and a mirror would do
3) Easy access to water ( could either be a tank/pump system or a cube turned on its side) preferably protected somewhat from freezing
4) Stove top and oven ( I like my cinnamon rolls in the am)
5) Drawer space for storing cookware etc. ( I prefer to put the dry food in a plastic bin with a lid)
6) 12V compressor Fridge/freezer 35 to 40L size is adequate for 2 to 5 days.
7) Built in on demand hot water system similar to this http://www.amazon.com/Camp-Chef-HWD5-Triton-Heater/dp/B001J4AU2E/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1425093138&sr=1-1&keywords=camp+chef+water+heater. If this is inset into the side wall, then The hot water can be used for showers/ dishwashing etc.
Propane bottle on the front of the TD with permanent pipping to the galley.
9) a place to put shoes. ( when you climb into bed at night you don't want to leave shoes on the ground, incase of bugs or just cold weather, so some place to put them inside would be great)
10) a place to put clothes in the cabin, and a smaller place to put quick access items i.e. phone, ipad, toiletries, so you don't have to dig through a bin of clothes to find the small things.
11) Air conditioning
12) A generator, or provisions for carrying a portable one
13) enough height to us some sort of porta potty in the cabin ( I usually roll up my bed when traveling, If necessary it would be good to be able to climb in the back and use the bath room if needed) ( also a place to put said porta potty, if you use something like this http://www.amazon.com/Reliance-Products-Collapsible-Portable-Toilet/dp/B0024OAQ3Q/ref=sr_1_sc_2?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1425093602&sr=1-2-spell&keywords=potable+toilet It could be folded up into a smaller space under the floor which would also provide extra height for using it)
14) a place to carry stuff outside. Tongue boxes are great, but mine can be filled with a generator, and that's about all that fits. You need a place to carry firewood, or trash bags ( or used potty bags) that isn't in the car or the trailer)

That's all I can think of for now.
Tom

Excuse me GreenViking, for butting in, but I think Tom took that as 5mx10m and is referring to something like this

[Socal Tom]

Excuse me GreenViking, for butting in, but I think Tom took that as 5mx10m and is referring to something like this

LOL, I think it could all fit. Ive seen pictures of rigs with some of these features. The only things I haven't seen on a TD is the shower built into an exterior cabinet, but that could be come a seperate box on the outside. Socalteardrops offers that as an option on their trailers.
Tom

[GreenViking]

Thanks Tom for the detailed list! And yes, I think that is doable, not "easy", but doable. I think the reality is that at 6'2" I have always placed a premium on a comfortable Queen SZ Bed and the ability to stand up fully. Yes, A transforming lift roof has always been my intention and Trolley top a fascination.

Frank: lol!

[GreenViking]

A lil bit of "Human Factors" design today as I begin prepping my 3d model for 3D Printing!

[GreenViking]

I realized that my website that has all my images for this project operates and serves at a much higher resolution then the TnTTT site.
Also, that site auto scales images to the users device screen size... it appears that TnTTT does not.

This creates a dilemma for my heavy on the visuals posting style and that my documentation is in Landscape mode.

Are any of you experiencing chopped of images of my postings? Are you able to click on the images I post to view them in their entirety?

Thanks!

[Bluebunny]

Are any of you experiencing chopped of images of my postings? Are you able to click on the images I post to view them in their entirety?

Your last image was chopped down the right-hand side, and no, it was not clickable to download. At least where I am sitting...

[pchast]

I can click on the image and open just the image to see the whole.
The largest I need to look at a section at a time to read the fine
print.

Its all good.

[capnTelescope]

In Chrome, right click the image and choose "open in new tab." You get full size and can scroll left/right/up/down to see it all. I think a lot will be lost if you shrink the images.

Forge onward.

[GreenViking]

So I need some feedback on the weight distribution as well as setting up the electrical system.

[GreenViking]

Finally found an animated image on web that demonstrates the concept of a back-lit programmable led light source on select Panels of the FireBeetle skin.
I really enjoy ways of creating a window that shows the support skeleton in the design as well as showing the beauty of the skeleton beneath. Finding a way of running the infrastructure of electric cables through structurally supportive skins is part of this projects goals.

[GreenViking]

... and I am thinking of the "wiring" as well.
http://www.tnttt.com/posting.php?mode=reply&f=30&t=62606#preview

[capnTelescope]

Thoughts on your 2AM post...

Wiring: The spaghetti bowl pic. My eyes bleed.

Extra hitch receiver: Beef it up a bit for pulling trains. If it's the lead trailer, then it's not just tongue weight of the #2 trailer, it's also the longitudinal force from the gross weight of all the trailers it's pulling. Note that you can't use vanilla 2" ID square tubing, as it's welded with the weld intruding inside. Removing it to a depth to accept a hitch/accessory would be a major PITA. Seamless will work, more $, harder to find. Also a great way to add a bike rack. Receiver tubes are available from Amazon, Northern Tool & Harbor Fright. Weld to a piece of 2" angle to reach the second rear crossmember.

Matching tires & wheels: Axle spindles for 6-lug wheels may be hard to find/special order, for a light suspension. 4 & 5 lug probably not a problem. Anyone else have a thought here?

Tongue and trailer weight: To get to 1000# dry, you will have to be ruthless about adding weight. Or go foamie. 3/4 ply is 75#/sheet.

LP gas: 2-10# tanks is more than enough for travel. But you are a Burner. You guys use a lot of LPG.

$0.02

[Socal Tom]

Thoughts on your 2AM post...

Wiring: The spaghetti bowl pic. My eyes bleed.

Extra hitch receiver: Beef it up a bit for pulling trains. If it's the lead trailer, then it's not just tongue weight of the #2 trailer, it's also the longitudinal force from the gross weight of all the trailers it's pulling. Note that you can't use vanilla 2" ID square tubing, as it's welded with the weld intruding inside. Removing it to a depth to accept a hitch/accessory would be a major PITA. Seamless will work, more $, harder to find. Also a great way to add a bike rack. Receiver tubes are available from Amazon, Northern Tool & Harbor Fright. Weld to a piece of 2" angle to reach the second rear crossmember.

Matching tires & wheels: Axle spindles for 6-lug wheels may be hard to find/special order, for a light suspension. 4 & 5 lug probably not a problem. Anyone else have a thought here?

Tongue and trailer weight: To get to 1000# dry, you will have to be ruthless about adding weight. Or go foamie. 3/4 ply is 75#/sheet.

LP gas: 2-10# tanks is more than enough for travel. But you are a Burner. You guys use a lot of LPG.

$0.02

Some wheels are hub centric, some are lug centric. Hub centric wheels, tend to have narrow centers, so putting them on a lug centric trailer axle may require a special wheel spacer.

For the "train" I would run the tongue all the way back to the extra reciever. I wouldn't want to spread the extra pulling stress to the trailer, but keep it all on that one beam.

My chassis was weighed in at 466 lbs. I've estimated the remainder of the trailer at about 450 lbs based on the weight of the materials used. So I'm right about 1000 lbs dry.. It's a standard wood build with very few frills. With the extras you have planned weight will be challenging.
Tom