Bread-loaf build thread

[KCStudly]

Aim for exact, get close enough.

The closer you aim and the more you practice, the better your shot.

[Fred Trout]

Aim for exact, get close enough.

The closer you aim and the more you practice, the better your shot.

Are you a golfer ? I always missed the ball or dribbled it into the water hazards. Same with bowling. But somehow I managed to get good at flyfishing ... of course 45 years of regular practice helps.

By the way, nose oil will corrode steel ferrules and attracts dust to gum up the works. "Fiberglass, boron/graphite, and graphite self-ferrules should be lubricated with paraffin, metal ferrules with dry soap."

[KCStudly]

Actually, I'm a plinker. Used to play golf, but it took too much time and I never got very good at it. On the up side, I usually found more balls than I lost because I was always in the woods looking for mine.

After I get thru with this project and camp around a bit, I plan on getting into SASS/CAS.

[Fred Trout]

SASS = Single action shooting ? semi-automatic sniper system ?

No pix today since there's nothing photogenic.
- Caulked the bottom of the sides and other things like the spline in between the roof sections.
- Finished up the fairing of the roof sections; added a few rivets to the fan opening flashing,
- checked the fit of the roof panels,
- washed & dried the next tarp - will try to cut this one to exact size for inner roof coverage & overlap so that it is pre-trimmed (will white-glue the 'line' & let it dry before I cut).
- hotwired out the exterior door porch LED wiring channel - I should have used the dry-wall router on the exterior wall but it will work this way too.

Everything is ready for canvassing & assembling the roof interior and roof panels on top of walls tomorrow except one foam piece up on front angle needs to be cut. Going to be a long day.

[Fred Trout]

Progress so far today was interrupted by T-storm. Will go back out after - too much to do.

Cut the rough panel configuration for the nose - takes me a long time measuring everything many times to make sure I don't screw it up too much. The panel covering the 45 degree roof angle & the two vertical front pieces are pretty much complete to size & placement other than edge fairing. The other lower angel roof segments need to be joined & cut to size once the rest is in place since small adjustments mean big changes to those.

Still need to fit the filler pieces where the angle meets to main walls but I have that all shaped & angles modeled.

[Fred Trout]

First roof panel glued in place - experiment with paint for canvassing galley roof failed to stick when hoisted upside down while still wet - splat

Only a 20x48 inch piece of canvas ruined so no big deal. Great Stuff manipulation as "rowerwet" talked about was pretty interesting - makes a fantastically sticky foam to foam glue but you have to work fast. I used a painter pallet with 40 paper sheets - mix the GS on it, throw the sheet away when done. Looks like that plastic coated freezer paper if you all want to give it a try with the thrifty potential

[Fred Trout]

Second roof panel w/ TB II canvassing on inside went upside down and stayed in place. Was able to take my time & go back after the foam panel adjustment & taping down was in place to do the overlap on walls & adjacent panel. Winner - TB II Did not put TB II on top of canvas to save glue & it did work fine. Great Stuff is really good for gluing foam panels together & the manipulation of GS on a palette until the consistency of peanut butter a great success for minimizing bubble size. H/T to rowerwet !

Looks like Latex paint may not be useful for gluing canvas to roof because it's stickyness timing window is not obvious or because it does not stick well until almost dry. More to come and pix later in this post.

EDIT: no comments on my crummy canvas trim job please Still getting my technique down - should have it down after I am all done

Added Pix:

[Fred Trout]

Spent WAYYYY too much time cutting and sanding the front panels to fit. One panel I trimmed a bit off - too long - trimmed a bit off - too long - trimmed a bit off - blam blam too short - now I had to glue in some more width and wait for the GS to dry (see 2nd pix below) . Bah

Anyway, got it all together correctly fitted - more or less and used GS to put the two front panels in with dry-wall-screws holding the panels to the floor, bamboo skewers & tape clamping them in place. Looks pretty decent and needs minimal fairing. The low angle roof is ready to be trimmed for final fit and GS glued in place tomorrow.

Pix:

[ghcoe]

Looking good!

[Fred Trout]

Thanks George. Coming along now & your posts helped enormously. The fan cutout & wood spline was 100% copy of yours; works and looks great. You can't even see the fan cutout metal flashing showing through the inside canvas but it will all be covered by the fan housing anyway. Minimal fairing of the flashing is all that's needed.

Decided to use the 2x2 flashing on the roof edges so that I have a mounting hard point for any awning rail or solar panel / roof rack and paper dry wall corner bead for all other outside wall/roof edges. Then fairing & sanding, exterior canvas and the hard stuff: doors.

[GPW]

COOL Nose !!! Looking Good !!!

[Fred Trout]

Thanks for the kind words, GPW. Better shots with it installed below.

This was the last wall piece needed to close up the foam-skin. Now onward to fairing, canvassing, painting and doors. As you can see, I applied extra GS to seal all joints as well as possible since this will be the most complicated orientation and the most likely to leak while driving. After I get all rough fairing completed, I have been applying paintable-caulk to all joints since GS is open-cell foam and can absorb water. I know all will be covered by TB II, canvas & paint but I am a belt AND suspenders kinda guy -- Murphy says if it can leak it will.

Pix:

[GPW]

And now the sanding and fettling begins..... it should be pretty aerodynamic too ...

[Fred Trout]

Fettling !! That's a word I never saw before, had to look it up ! "Fine fettle" I heard but never understood until now.

Sanding foam never takes very long - fixing the mistaken divots you add with the orbital sander takes longer Anyway, Already finished sanding off the roof edges elsewhere - took less than an hour versus 3 days of fussing with those panels up front. Will have to wait for that part to dry out before sanding the front down to "look about right". Meantime, the struggle to get doors done and working well has begun !

[GPW]

Sanding and shaping foam is actually FUN compared to trying to do the same with wood ... Foam works so Easy ... Best keep up with the dust though .... it gets Everywhere...
Just thinking ahead , once everything is rounded it’ll have that “locomotive” look to it ...

Apologies for the strange words .... We’ve been hanging out with my British amp friends lately , and I’ve forgotten how to speak English ...