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Tongue Mounted Galleys

Postby Vedette » Fri Jul 24, 2015 1:30 pm

Show me your tongue mounted Galleys.
I have a very good friend that has just taken the plunge into Teardrop trailers. He has purchased a 2004 Littlel Guy 4'x7' with no Galley.
I want to show him some possibilities???? :twisted:
Pictures are always worth a 1000 words.
Thanks for any help here.
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Re: Tongue Mounted Galleys

Postby Vedette » Sat Jul 25, 2015 10:49 am

Okay, someone must have Tongue Mounted Galley??? :o :NC
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Re: Tongue Mounted Galleys

Postby M C Toyer » Sat Jul 25, 2015 11:30 am

I have seen a couple on 4 x 4 forums and as I recall thy were either a separate box or a pull-out or fold down from the front wall.

The tongue provided support for the lid or a table top but also interfered with full access to both sides without walking around the tongue.

I suppose that could be avoided if the separate box could be made to pivot 90 degrees to use.

These examples are from very small explorer boxes.

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Re: Tongue Mounted Galleys

Postby capnTelescope » Sat Jul 25, 2015 1:55 pm

M C Toyer wrote:... interfered with full access to both sides without walking around the tongue.

+1
It just doesn't sound like a good idea to me.

Apologies for the negativity.

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Re: Tongue Mounted Galleys

Postby Vedette » Sat Jul 25, 2015 3:42 pm

Using a removable or a push in tongue can solve part of the problem with a tongue mounted Galley Box.
Or the pivoting front mounted Galley????
There are ways it could be done to make it a very usable option. :thinking:
I am just looking for some pictures to show my friend. :roll:
Thanks for any help or suggestions!
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Re: Tongue Mounted Galleys

Postby Alan_H » Sat Jul 25, 2015 6:34 pm

What kind of TV does he have? Seems like that will add a lot of tongue weight. If he has something that will handle it, it would be a good idea for an upgrade, but I think most teardrops are built with the galley in the rear to lighten the tongue weight for smaller lighter TV's.
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Re: Tongue Mounted Galleys

Postby DrCrash » Sat Jul 25, 2015 6:52 pm

Look in my picture gallery page 2 I think. You will see two pictures of our teardr ,op with a chuck box mounted on the side using a table rail. We haul the chuck box in the car and then mount it on the side when we get to the camp ground
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Re: Tongue Mounted Galleys

Postby Vedette » Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:39 pm

So the pictures are not jumping off the pages here?? :(
But, am thinking about the possibilities of the general concept. Not what is in the "Box"....but the Box itself.
Two thought are in the forefront.
#1. is the stationary Galley facing forward with a removable or slide in tongue.
#2. Is the Two Way Pivoting Galley.
The stationary Galley is obviously the "easiest"....but the Two Way Pivoting Galley is the coolest and most functional,. As it allows access to the Galley from either side of TD which can be most useful when fitting into any campsite configuration.
The challenge with a pivoting Galley is to overcome the obvious weight issue. For your Galley to be stocked and ready to go it "Will" be heavy!
Two problems with that: 1. Tongue weight
2. Smooth operation, strength, and durability of the Pivot.
Stability for the Pivoting Galley can be achieved by simple stabilizer jacks.
Galley seal is also an important issue to deal with, as the Galley will be facing into the wind and weather while travelling.
Thought of a removable "Chuck Box" style Galley does not seem like best route???? Again "Weight " would be a detrimental factor.
Chuck boxes are great when carried in the TV or used off of a tailgate.
Well the initial drawings are starting to hit the paper. :thinking:
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Re: Tongue Mounted Galleys

Postby tony.latham » Sun Jul 26, 2015 2:08 pm

Just off the top of my head.... I'd be toying with a slide out box. It'd have the stove with a 1-pound bottle hooked up under the stove.

Here's a link that may shed some light on how one might make a 4 or 5' slider without having to rob a bank:
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Re: Tongue Mounted Galleys

Postby M C Toyer » Sun Jul 26, 2015 8:29 pm

Without over thinking this your friend might consider a free standing box that mimics the front profile of the 4 x 7 Little Guy which has a reactively flat front wall below the radius; perhaps a box 1/2 to 2/3 as tall and slightly narrower supported by an L shaped platform resting on and attached to the tongue.

The dual pivoting mechanism could be as simple as a pair of butt hinges on either side with removable pins. I would not think any more bracing would be required than perhaps a sliding rod on the tongue under the box just too keep it from swinging back closed. I've hung 300# doors with a pair of 4x2 inch butt hinges and 3/4 inch screws.

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I don't know what all he might be planning to include in the galley but mine, which is a 3 cubic foot box framed with 1 x pine and skinned with 5 mm plywood, weighs less than 10 # empty and when loaded with a butane stove, cookware, utensils, condiments, paper/plastic plates, bowls and drinking cups, and a few cans and boxes of food barely doubles.

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Tripling or quadrupling that size say to 42 inches wide, 30 inches tall and 16 inches deep would still be under 100# without a cooler full of ice and beer and if weight distribution is a concern stick the cooler in the back of the cabin. The Little Guys with the extended tongue and cargo platform don't change the location of the axle from the standard model.

Assuming his tow vehicle is capable of towing as little as 1000# I would not see 150-200# of tongue weight a problem.

Waterproofing should not be that big a concern either. If the lid was the radius and the front of the box dropped down to form a table the lid could overlap the lower and the outer edges of both could have a flange that overlapped the sides of the box like roof trim. The rubber/plastic hinges would suffice or just a standard piano hinge covered with a strip of rubber, a la BobHenry. The lids could be opened for quick access without pivoting the whole box outward.

Small portable chuck boxes are fine if you have to carry all your gear in the back of a truck, van or station wagon but my idea of hassle free camping is not having to lift anything other than the lid. A slide out to either side would be workable also - I built one for the storage bay of a 58 VW pickup when I was about 14. A sheet of plywood with 1x6 sides to keep everything on it and a folding wood and canvas stool to hold the open end.

Just my 2-1/2 cents worth.

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Re: Tongue Mounted Galleys

Postby Vedette » Sun Jul 26, 2015 9:08 pm

Your drawing is exactly what I have drawn in pencil on a pad! :thinking:
Thanks for the Drafted version! :applause:
Your suggestions and observations are 100% the same as what I am thinking too. :thumbsup:
This definitely doable (thought more had done it already??)
Thanks again for your reply.
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Re: Tongue Mounted Galleys

Postby capnTelescope » Sun Jul 26, 2015 10:39 pm

They said it couldn't be done. Nice work M.C. :thumbsup:
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