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Postby Classic Finn » Thu Jun 08, 2006 3:11 pm

madjack wrote:Asian's solution is probably the most cost effective....I found the axle you are talking about and it has a down start angle and you need one that has a 0* or up start angle...that page didn't show them to be available but in that one start angle....
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Madjack do you have a photo or specs I could show the dealerships here
as to what it looks like?

here is the site I just found as well, maybe you can see one there that you suggest???

http://www.teohydrauli.fi/tuotteet.shtm ... &m_group=1

I may have found one? Click - Lisäkuva 1 (additional photo 1)

this - http://www.teohydrauli.fi/tuotteet.shtm ... pro_id=291

click - Tuote Tiedot - Product Info
then Kuva - Photo and it shows some specs..

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Postby madjack » Thu Jun 08, 2006 3:26 pm

...here is the spec page for Dexter... http://i.b5z.net/i/u/1080235/f/Torflex_ ... n_4-04.pdf ...the second site you sent me to also has all of their axles shown with a 20* down angle...it might just be one o' them Yurpean thingys...
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Postby Classic Finn » Thu Jun 08, 2006 3:29 pm

Majority are 20 your right.. How much do they cost there in the Good Ol USA ?

The ones you just mentioned? could be that all these axles are universal here and to top it all off they have been approved for the EU..

Another part of the tight rules.. UGH..

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Postby madjack » Thu Jun 08, 2006 3:33 pm

I can get a Dexter for US$170+tax...they vary from there and up...this includes hubs.................................... 8)
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Postby Classic Finn » Thu Jun 08, 2006 3:37 pm

madjack wrote:...here is the spec page for Dexter... http://i.b5z.net/i/u/1080235/f/Torflex_ ... n_4-04.pdf ...the second site you sent me to also has all of their axles shown with a 20* down angle...it might just be one o' them Yurpean thingys...
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about as knowledgeable as I am with these will Our 20 down angles do justice for us at all? Another silly question from a green horn... :lol: :lol:

or what would the frame height be then? :oops: Hmm Andrew where are you? Or any other drawing specialists or wizards? :D

Would the frame then be about in the center of the wheels or?

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Postby madjack » Thu Jun 08, 2006 3:44 pm

Heikki, this falls into the category of Seriously Wild A$$ Guess, but I would say they would give you a clearance of less than 20"s, maybe even as low as 16"s...they would also allow you to completely remove the shock mounts...remember that guess is pure speculation...
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Postby Classic Finn » Thu Jun 08, 2006 3:51 pm

Madjack
Im heading out to do some hunting around during shop hours tomorrow so
I,ll ask a lot of questions about it..

But at least your speculations are more than mine which doesnt say much.. :lol: :lol:


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Postby angib » Thu Jun 08, 2006 4:22 pm

Heikki,

The first torsion axle (Isojoen Konehalli) will give you a height to the underside of your frame of 5-7cm (2-3") plus the radius of your tyre. I think you are using 185R14 - they will be about 33cm (13") radius and so the underside of your trailer frame would be 40-42cm (15-16") off the ground. I'm guessing that's maybe 5-7cm lower than you have now?

You will need to measure the overall width of your frame to see if any of these torsion axles will fit right.

To Merkans reading this, it is necessary to point out that chosing your own start angle, bracket width and hubface dimension is only possible from US manufacturers - here in Yurp you get a standard torsion axle or nothing!

The drop axle idea was a good one as that would fit with the least modification....... but drop axles aren't available in Yurp. Heikki could make his own..... but I don't think that's allowed in Finland.

Heikki, I think it's time you started liking the look of your trailer at the height it is now.

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Postby Classic Finn » Thu Jun 08, 2006 4:40 pm

Man :shock: I mustve been thinking real loud cause there was Andrew just like that... Or ya mustve heard my Finnish cuss words.. :lol:

Andrew the tires are P205/75R14 in size.

You are correct it is illegal here to use other than EU Approved Axles.
and making your own is not allowed... :(
I was also searching Al-ko, Knott and others but no luck -as well as in Germany and Uk.
All are the same ..... in other wards no Good Ol USA styles or types.
Angle set at 20 as on the sites.

I dont suppose changing tires will do much in this case either...low profile tires.... The rims are 14 x 6 just for info...

Im going to contact the Safety Officials and ask them as to what they will say about using the axles from the States but I think I know these replies here already... :x

Darn am I going to have to drop down to a 13 size wheel and Urpean tires
to bring the height down..?

Who knows ... like you said ... I may have to just start liking the height of it... :lol: :lol: :lol: Dont know if Im scared of heights though as of yet.. ;)

One thing I forgot to mention though is that a trailer that has no brakes installed has to be inspected once as compared to with brakes every year.

I,ll get USA axles and put them on after inspection ... :lol: :lol: :shhh: :whistle:

Thank You
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PS How can we get them Merican Axles approved here? Geeeeeeeee
Finland is the head of the Eu in a few months... :thinking: Guess we,ll have to start lobbying for USA style axles.... :EXP

How about a new law for equality for teardrop lovers worldwide? ;)
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Postby Classic Finn » Thu Jun 08, 2006 5:04 pm

Andrew
How about if I say to the officials that I bought the teardrop from the USA..Then maybe I could get by with the Merican axles... :lol: :lol:
Isnt it so that if a product has over 60 percent parts from the USA .. oor Its an American Product? 8) 8)
Made in America - Assembly in Finland?
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Postby bledsoe3 » Thu Jun 08, 2006 11:25 pm

Finn, Could you change the axle out after inspection? :whistle:
Just remember if you do, it could slightly change where your tires are in relationship to your fenders.
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Postby alaska teardrop » Fri Jun 09, 2006 12:15 am

    Heikki,
    You have the perfect set up, as is, to do something like this.
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    Space under the floor accessed from the underside or through the floor for the spare or whatever, ahead of and/or behind the axle & springs. This sketch was drawn with a torsion axle in mind, but could easily be adapted to your set up. Your trailer would still set as tall but look low to the road (plenty of slipstream behind that ol' '37 anyway) :twisted: :lol: .
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Postby Nitetimes » Fri Jun 09, 2006 12:18 am

Or you could just build a couple fo 8" high steps to carry with you and it won't be a problem anymore. 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
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Postby Classic Finn » Fri Jun 09, 2006 1:22 pm

Good evening ... I dunn cut the grass and fiddled around some more this evening on the High Ridin Tear..... :lol: :thinking:

I tried the template on the frame with the fenders and well........
Love it, hate it, love it....and then went blank :shock: Well so and so...

I may have found a solution to our height problem.... together with an axle company that has dealt with them for 20 years and to my surprise not far away....

So next week we shall see.... if not I have plan B.... At least I be persistent... 8) 8) 8) Then its Dexter time USA after Inspection... :whistle:

But ok I have a photo for you of our trial run with a template and fenders soooooo I need your comments....
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Postby Classic Finn » Fri Jun 09, 2006 1:30 pm

alaska teardrop wrote:
    Heikki,
    You have the perfect set up, as is, to do something like this.
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    Space under the floor accessed from the underside or through the floor for the spare or whatever, ahead of and/or behind the axle & springs. This sketch was drawn with a torsion axle in mind, but could easily be adapted to your set up. Your trailer would still set as tall but look low to the road (plenty of slipstream behind that ol' '37 anyway) :twisted: :lol: .
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Good evening Alaska... Hows the weather up there way up North?

I do like that drawing ..... :thinking: :thinking: Interesting....

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Thank You..
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