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Re: very light boat, new teardrop technique?

Postby PKCSPT » Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:35 pm

Got my attention, is there a build thread or pictures I missed? I love your windows. Looks like you might see shadows through the side, is light or privacy an issue? Kitty adds a nice touch of color.
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Re: very light boat, new teardrop technique?

Postby tmoenter » Sun Sep 27, 2015 5:21 am

Sidewalls are insulated with reflectix so not translucent.
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Re: very light boat, new teardrop technique?

Postby rowerwet » Sun Sep 27, 2015 8:59 am

Those boats owe a lot of design ideas to early aircraft. The way dope and fabric air craft skin is protected from UV is a layer of silver paint, under the finish colors. Skin on frame boat builders skip that to show off the structure.
Silver paint on a tear would take care of most solar heating, but still would need insulation for cold nights.
The cheaper, faster answer is a foamie with PMF skin.
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Re: very light boat, new teardrop technique?

Postby tmoenter » Sun Sep 27, 2015 2:08 pm

As I said, i used reflectix bubblewrap, two layers midway in the 3/4 inch skinwall. With 2 air gaps and two reflective layers with double layer of bubbles it makes a reflective, high R-value wall. The only heat gain I get is from my 2x4 foot skylight and that is easily dumped using my solar powered vent fans. It is very cozy and easy to heat at night.
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very light boat, new teardrop technique?

Postby tmoenter » Sun Sep 27, 2015 2:11 pm

BTW I have built a number of GA boats of various configurations starting with and improving on Platt Montfort's techniques. They are very light and strong. I built the 10 foot version of the dinghy shown in the original post. Fantastic boat...light and fast. I find that with proper engineering of the keels and gunwales, the kevlar roving is unnecessary.
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Re: very light boat, new teardrop technique?

Postby tmoenter » Sun Sep 27, 2015 3:32 pm

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Two layers of reflectix captive within the rib structure before skinning.
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Here is a detail pic of the sidewall showing how the insulation was done
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Re: very light boat, new teardrop technique?

Postby S. Heisley » Sun Sep 27, 2015 10:59 pm

tmoenter: Thanks for posting pictures of your trailer. I've added a reference to this thread into the Trailers with lifting roofs thread, here:
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Re: very light boat, new teardrop technique?

Postby aggie79 » Mon Sep 28, 2015 12:45 pm

Very innovative! Curious minds would like to know more. For the front, is the Dacron applied over plywood for puncture resistance?
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Re: very light boat, new teardrop technique?

Postby GPW » Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:12 am

Curious , we posted this back in 2010 and got no positive comments although we’d been building planes like this for 50 years ... :roll: 65819

Still seems like a good idea to me ... :thinking:
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Re: very light boat, new teardrop technique?

Postby tmoenter » Tue Sep 29, 2015 11:53 am

Front and top have 1/8 plywood backing. Bending plywood for the curves, marine okoume for the flats. Dacron over everything and all sealed with waterbase polyurethane.
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very light boat, new teardrop technique?

Postby tmoenter » Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:02 pm

After successfully making strong lightweight boats this way it was a no brainer for me to evolve to my camper project. Commercial campers waste way too much space on inside kitchens and cabinetry...all of which weigh a ton. I cook outside...don't need/want a kitchen. I had 4 must-haves... Queen bed... 6'3" standup...under 1000 pounds...garageable. Had to design and build my own to get what I wanted.
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Re: very light boat, new teardrop technique?

Postby CLChastain » Tue Oct 06, 2015 6:56 am

tmoenter wrote:Dacron is dirt cheap. Lightweight. Strong. Also will follow compound curves well. I seal with water base spar polyurethane which doesn't yellow.


Who is a dirt-cheap supplier? I googled "Dacron fabric" but all kinds of entries show up in the Google index that don't seem pertinent.

BTW, love the kittycat photobomb in another comment. Cats are expert photobombers....
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Re: very light boat, new teardrop technique?

Postby tmoenter » Tue Oct 06, 2015 8:16 am

Aircraft Spruce. http://www.aircraftspruce.com/ My tuxedo cat "Yoda" is my greatest admirer and my most vocal critic. He insists on regular coffee breaks.
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Re: very light boat, new teardrop technique?

Postby CLChastain » Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:22 am

Ah.... a supervisor.
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Re: very light boat, new teardrop technique?

Postby AndrewB » Thu Oct 08, 2015 8:29 am

You can also get it from kayak building sites at a heavier weight fabric. The construction can be pretty bomb proof, especially at the heavier weight fabrics.

I am planning on building one similar to tmoenter's. He is an old family friend and was like an Uncle to me when I was young. We recently reconnected, and it was pretty funny to hear of him building a skin on frame boat, as I had just made a SoF kayak the previous year. When he started describing a skin on frame trailer, I thought it was a perfect adaptation of the technology. My wife also loved the idea, especially when we saw the finished pictures. She has ordered me to make that my next project.
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