WellsCargo 6x12.. 6" additional roof heigh & barns..

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Re: WellsCargo 6x12.. 6" additional roof heigh & barns..

Postby ywhic » Tue Nov 03, 2015 7:19 am

I wood but for $33 more I can get a 3 stage charger the WF 8735 is $118
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Re: WellsCargo 6x12.. 6" additional roof heigh & barns..

Postby McDave » Tue Nov 03, 2015 11:53 am

Yea, I just called the seller and they "revised" the listing to no longer include the breakers. They are having trouble finding breakers for these (china) so what are the chances I'll be able to find them? PLEASE DO NOT ORDER THIS CONVERTER. sorry for the bad info. If it seems too good to be true.....
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Re: WellsCargo 6x12.. 6" additional roof heigh & barns..

Postby McDave » Wed Nov 04, 2015 5:48 pm

Hey ywhic,
OK I got out there and checked the shower. It is 32"x32" pan and the 3 piece metal surround is about 75.5" tall from bottom of pan to top of curtain "ring". The sides "snap" into the back and the ring holds the top together, screws thru the pan hold the bottom of surround together. There are some rust stains, but very small. I'm going to try to post pics, but have never done this before, so my wife may need to help me this evening. OK, here we go...
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Well, that's not exactly what I wanted but it works. So pan weighs about 25lbs, and sides are 20-25 each, let's call it 100lbs.
I'm at 59301 (Miles City, MT) If you arrange shipping, I'll box it and it's yours.
Let me know,
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Re: WellsCargo 6x12.. 6" additional roof heigh & barns..

Postby Jeepcamper » Wed Nov 04, 2015 8:13 pm

Niiice,looking forward to see how this turns out. Im going to be buying a cargo nxt month,i live in jersey,they seem so high in price around my area,i think i might go with pro line trailers out of virginia,im thinking of getting a 6-12,insulated with windows and the pwr pkg ?
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Re: WellsCargo 6x12.. 6" additional roof heigh & barns..

Postby McDave » Wed Nov 04, 2015 9:28 pm

@ Jeepcamper,
Those look like some nice CTs. If I was buying a new trailer for a Harley Hauler I would probably go with a 7x14. I have a 6x12 flat nose and it works, but that few extra feet would make life easier in a lot of ways.
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Re: WellsCargo 6x12.. 6" additional roof heigh & barns..

Postby ywhic » Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:53 pm

So I got the BlueSea 6 circuit fuse block today (w/ground option and rated at 100 amps). I mounted it 23" off the deck..

I decided to be smart.. The bottom left is the FEED + from the battery box and trailer tongue with a 20 amp fuse for inbound 'juice'..

The right side is the 5 amp for the factory Bargman cargo trailer light and the 10 amp is for the Sureflo water pump with 7.5 amp max draw (that recommends a 10 amp..) I left slack in the wires.. cause you never know.. :D

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The wires coming down from the 'block' are for the water pump.. the blue 'shallow old work' box (at 48" off the deck) is for the wall switch for the water pump.. No worries the wires are zip tied and apart up top..

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The shallow old style work box is Carlon B108R and is flanged and only 1" deep.. which works well for trailers with 1" thick wall beams.. and another 3/8" of more of depth.. For $1.49 from local TrueValue.. or $1.29 from HDepot..

@McDave.. got the IM's.. still pondering which way to go.. Will let you know in a few months..
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Re: WellsCargo 6x12.. 6" additional roof heigh & barns..

Postby McDave » Sun Nov 08, 2015 12:27 pm

Its all good. This gave me the excuse I needed to get out there and move that thing out of the pump house. Really opened some room to work. So, If you just want the pan, we can do that, too. It may be cost prohibitive to ship those surround panels (size & weight) and I think I could modify the back panel so it will fit my shower/toilet pan (31.5"x24") but I don't want to cut them up if someone can use them as is. I am starting to move on this project, but I will let you know before I hack anything up.
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Re: WellsCargo 6x12.. 6" additional roof heigh & barns..

Postby ywhic » Thu Nov 12, 2015 8:10 pm

I got in the Icon HT706ED 15 gal black/gray water tank.. its 46x16x8. Its got 3" spigot and 4 level sensors on the side..

I opted to order a Lyons 32x24x12 full tub (not the seat type tub).. the 1st came in damaged today from Amzn (aka Rex & Son RV).. They are sending me another ASAP and a call tag for the claim with UPS..

I also ordered Valterra Gravity/City water fill, Surflo 4008-1101-A65 12vdc water pump, pump silencer kit, 10 gallon RV fresh water tank, the Smooth-Bor 10' 1 1/4" hose for the gravity feed, 8 oz can of Oatey ABS glue, and 3 of the Bargman 34-76-123 12vdc lights like I got, 2 pieces of AL C channel in 2"x2" format for mounting the black.gray water tank under the trailer decently, and 2 feet of the ABS in 3" for the toilet piping.. (now my Amzn CC is hurting some)..

The good news is I can do some insulation behind the corner wall, greenroc, and possibly frame in the TUB before winter.. and fab the countertop..

I wanted to grab the other items (named above) just to have as in spring certain things may take time to get in hand..

This should also cover like 90% of the plumbing minus the pex and fittings..

Stay tuned..
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Re: WellsCargo 6x12.. 6" additional roof heigh & barns..

Postby ywhic » Fri Nov 13, 2015 6:13 pm

I cut the floor flange for the toilet down abit.. and then cut some of the rubber off the 'grommet' top side.. total space between tank and trailer underfloor is 1" with this cut..

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I have some 1" AL C channel coming to replace the 2" C (which I will be returning to Amzn)..

I did measuring today and realized 2" of AL C was too much drop for an 8 1/4" tank (near the drain) and would leave me less than 6" of ground clearance..
FWIW/FYI.. The tank tapers back toward the shallow end at just 6".

The hub/drain will be in front of the axle/tire and exit on the drivers side and will have just over 7" of ground clearance the the least point..

An inch is an inch. :D

I will be plumbing 1 1/2" gray water (aka sink/shower) into the side on the shallow end..
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Re: WellsCargo 6x12.. 6" additional roof heigh & barns..

Postby ywhic » Sun Nov 15, 2015 7:30 pm

Today started bad. My mother died at 73 last night out of the blue. :(

So I worked on the trailer to kinda pass time and not think..

Here is the floor plan (see cardboard floor plan). The tub (32x24) will be in the far right corner.. the toilet will be where the flange is sitting on the floor.
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I will have 32" from the door to the bathroom 'wall'. So that works for me.. I am going to use a simple curtain rod for the bathroom door.. though the opening will be 27" wide for possible future door.

This is the 15 gallon tank I bought from Amzn.. it has the sensors on it.. I got a KBI tank meter coming in as well.. Its the basic gray/black with NO pump option.. was $19 on Ebay the wiring harness for the tank sensors was $6 on Ebay..

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I will be offline for abit handling things..
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Re: WellsCargo 6x12.. 6" additional roof heigh & barns..

Postby ZoNiE » Sun Nov 15, 2015 7:52 pm

That's a good price for that trailer... :thumbsup:
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Re: WellsCargo 6x12.. 6" additional roof heigh & barns..

Postby McDave » Sun Nov 15, 2015 8:21 pm

So sorry for your loss. Thoughts and prayers.
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Re: WellsCargo 6x12.. 6" additional roof heigh & barns..

Postby AZ_Desert_Rat » Sun Nov 15, 2015 9:01 pm

Hi Al,
I like the cardboard layout and did some of that myself ... it beats cutting twice ...
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I almost wish now I had gone with a 12', but at the time, I designed my 6x10 for off-road ... BTW, I disconnected my truck charge circuit to the trailer because I was concerned about running the truck battery down when camping. After converting all inside lights to LED, I now know that I can go for days without worry, but there is no chance of that now.
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Good luck and keep the picks coming ...
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Re: WellsCargo 6x12.. 6" additional roof heigh & barns..

Postby Padilen » Sun Nov 15, 2015 11:12 pm

Sorry to hear of your loss.
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Re: WellsCargo 6x12.. 6" additional roof heigh & barns..

Postby hankaye » Mon Nov 16, 2015 10:25 am

ywhic, Howdy;

Sorry about your loss.

The sensors will be sending false readings as soon as the first chunk of material
(biologic, paper, or whatever), hangs-up on the studs inside the tank. Folks that
have the big RVs with them are constantly complaining about them. I just hang
my coats and jackets over the monitor panel to keep the lights from being a
distraction.

hank

EDIT to add; Generally one makes the deposits into the wide end and also that keeps
"stuff" from piling up at the drain (not so wide), end before you're ready to dump. Also,
don't forget to add a vent, also from wide end.
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