gudmund wrote:at W-M when buying my 48 qt Igloo cooler I walked it across the isle to the container isle and found one that fits and now floats up and down with the ice level which helps keep things dry. I also use a indoor/outdoor $10. "Acurite" brand temp gauge (also at W/M in the home improvement section) wrapping the outdoor radio sensor in a Zip-lock bag than putting it in the floating container with the food. When on the road I have the inside gauge inside the truck cab with me on the console and can keep tabs on my cooler/truck cab temps when traveling - works great!! When I see the temp go into to the 40's, I know the ice is getting thin.
Trebor English wrote:Cosmo,
Thanks for posting the you tube link. I didn't know it was there. That's me and my faux TD. It's not a trailer but otherwise very similar, rear hatch, side doors, low ceiling, 4x6 inside etc.
Trebor
Trebor English wrote:Yes, it's me. It is Bob Wells of http://www.cheaprvliving.com who asked the questions and recorded. It was at RTR near Quartzsite, AZ in January. It was great fun.
Trebor
S. Heisley wrote:Add salt?
I recently saw that adding salt to your ice chest water before freezing it will keep food colder longer. (The article didn't say how much to add.) Has anybody tried it? What's the ratio of salt that should be added?
greygoos wrote:jstrubberg wrote:S. Heisley wrote:I freeze water in plastic containers that are built like a cereal box and put one of those at each end. When the ice melts, I refill the containers with ice from store-bought bags...no mess.
Watch out for carcinogens!
Incidentally, they have recently found that plastic that is frozen will release even more carcinogens into the thawing water than when hot water is put in plastic; so, don't drink that water!
Add salt?
I recently saw that adding salt to your ice chest water before freezing it will keep food colder longer. (The article didn't say how much to add.) Has anybody tried it? What's the ratio of salt that should be added?
I doubt the salt thing is true. Adding salt to water and THEN freezing it can get you longer lasting ice, because salt water freezes at a lower temperature than fresh water. Adding salt to existing ice isn't likely to do anything but make the melt water salty.
Sprinkling a handful of Kosher salt to a cooler of ice will keep the ice for a longer period and it will melt slower. Think of an old fashioned ice cream churn. You add salt to the ice to keep it from melting rapidly.
beakman wrote:...After years and years of camping, ice cream making, picnics and parties, here are the best ways I've learned to keep ice longer:
1. Do NOT break up the bags when you get them. Yes, it will cool your beer, etc FASTER when you break it up, but that's because it is losing it's coldness faster to whatever is in the cooler. In other words, it's melting faster. That's because breaking it up gives it more surface area. Breaking it is good for parties, not so good for food and camping. That's why ice for ice boxes was always delivered in big blocks back in the old days.
2. Frozen is frozen, but your deep freeze will give you ice at zero degrees generally, so it will stay cold a lot longer. Depending on your settings, your refrigerator's freezer is probably just a few degrees below 32. The ice machine at the gas station/campground/etc is at 31 or so. Why? Cheaper to keep the temp higher, and of course you'll need ice sooner if it melts faster.
3. Keep your cooler in the shadiest spot you can find. The temp is what it is outside, but of course we all know it feels cooler in the shade. Your ice will feel the same way.
4. Open it as little as possible. Every time you open it, you're letting in warm air. So if you're getting stuff out for dinner, get it all out at once.
5. Use one of those cooler covers. Yes, those silly looking foil bubble-wrap contraptions. They really do work (especially out in the sun), even if they aren't the highest quality. ANY kind of insulation helps. On the boat we sometimes wrap our towels around and over the cooler, for example.
6. Don't drain the water. I know some of you won't agree, but I've done lots of unscientific testing on this. As long as the food, drinks and new ice fit in the cooler still, I never drain the water. Its mass holds the cold better than air. In other words, if your cooler is nearing empty on food or drinks and you keep the water drained, that's just more air in there. Then when you open it, warm air goes in. If you keep the water in there, that's less warm air coming in (same principle as the ice cream churn I mentioned above). This is also why keeping frozen jugs of water in your deep freeze is a good idea if have empty space. That and the fact if you lose power, you have all that mass keeping your food cold.
jstrubberg wrote:S. Heisley wrote:I freeze water in plastic containers that are built like a cereal box and put one of those at each end. When the ice melts, I refill the containers with ice from store-bought bags...no mess.
Watch out for carcinogens!
Incidentally, they have recently found that plastic that is frozen will release even more carcinogens into the thawing water than when hot water is put in plastic; so, don't drink that water!
Add salt?
I recently saw that adding salt to your ice chest water before freezing it will keep food colder longer. (The article didn't say how much to add.) Has anybody tried it? What's the ratio of salt that should be added?
I doubt the salt thing is true. Adding salt to water and THEN freezing it can get you longer lasting ice, because salt water freezes at a lower temperature than fresh water. Adding salt to existing ice isn't likely to do anything but make the melt water salty.
drhill wrote:Actually adding salt does not change the heat of fusion of the ice. ie= the same amount of energy is required to turn the ice from a solid to a liquid. But is does lower the freezing point. That is why salt is added to the ice when making ice cream so that the freezing point is lowered below 32F so that ice crystals can be formed in the ice cream.
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