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French doors in back of ct

Postby jerry4570 » Tue Sep 06, 2016 4:29 pm

I thought I found a thread when I was lurking but cannot now. Does anyone know of a thread discussing installing french doors in the back of a cargo trailer?
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Re: French doors in back of ct

Postby flboy » Tue Sep 06, 2016 4:46 pm

No aware of one... but it shouldn't be too hard. Just build a wall inset from the ramp and hang the doors. Cool idea in any case.

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Re: French doors in back of ct

Postby jerry4570 » Tue Sep 06, 2016 5:23 pm

No aware of one... but it shouldn't be too hard. Just build a wall inset from the ramp and hang the doors. Cool idea in any case.


The ramp door is about 5'7" so I guess I'd have to make the doors unless I find some that can be cut down. I'd like a pre-hung door but I it'd probably have to be special ordered $$$
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Re: French doors in back of ct

Postby hankaye » Wed Sep 07, 2016 9:22 am

jerry4570, Howdy;

Not to rain on your parade, but have you thought about the negative pressure that will
be pulling on the back of the trailer? Will the glass you use be strong enough to withstand it?
There is a reason for those cam-locks used to secure the regular doors.
I may be wrong, but were I you I'd look into it more before spending the $'s.

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Re: French doors in back of ct

Postby aggie79 » Wed Sep 07, 2016 10:31 am

If you don't need the opening width for both doors, why not use a single glass door with a side light? Instead of a conventional pre-framed door, how about a storm door instead? The continuous hinge of a storm door may stand up to road vibration better than the three hinges of a conventional door.
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Re: French doors in back of ct

Postby 3GKnight » Wed Sep 07, 2016 11:10 am

hankaye wrote:jerry4570, Howdy;

Not to rain on your parade, but have you thought about the negative pressure that will
be pulling on the back of the trailer? Will the glass you use be strong enough to withstand it?
There is a reason for those cam-locks used to secure the regular doors.
I may be wrong, but were I you I'd look into it more before spending the $'s.

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If I understand, I think the concept is that the ramp is still there (up when moving, down to access the trailer) and would cover the glass doors. Is that right Jerry? The photo you posted might not be like that though.
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Re: French doors in back of ct

Postby jerry4570 » Wed Sep 07, 2016 12:58 pm

If I understand, I think the concept is that the ramp is still there (up when moving, down to access the trailer) and would cover the glass doors. Is that right Jerry? The photo you posted might not be like that though.


That is correct, I'm not sure but I think that is the ramp in the down position being used as a deck, like I want to do. That is the only picture I've found of what I want to do, I think its at burning man.
I will keep the ramp, and use it as a ramp as well as a deck when parked. I still have to figure how to navigate around the cables with the french doors.
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Re: French doors in back of ct

Postby jerry4570 » Wed Sep 07, 2016 1:00 pm

If you don't need the opening width for both doors, why not use a single glass door with a side light? Instead of a conventional pre-framed door, how about a storm door instead? The continuous hinge of a storm door may stand up to road vibration better than the three hinges of a conventional door.


That is another option, if I can still get a motorcycle through the single door. My main goal is to get a lot of light in when parked, and make the rear an easy exit.
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Re: French doors in back of ct

Postby Id10t » Wed Sep 07, 2016 3:04 pm

jerry4570 wrote:
If you don't need the opening width for both doors, why not use a single glass door with a side light? Instead of a conventional pre-framed door, how about a storm door instead? The continuous hinge of a storm door may stand up to road vibration better than the three hinges of a conventional door.


That is another option, if I can still get a motorcycle through the single door. My main goal is to get a lot of light in when parked, and make the rear an easy exit.



Couple of thoughts.

They make polycarbonate clear doors that roll up for shops and stores.

Then you could also do a closet style folding door and use polycarbonate as the lights/glass. It would be light and tough. You would also only lose a few inches on each side when the doors are open so loading anything would not be an issue. Plus if you don't want them for a trip they can just be taken out of the tracks and put away.
Something like these.
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http://interiorexteriordoors.com/10-folding-door-design-ideas.html
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Re: French doors in back of ct

Postby jerry4570 » Wed Sep 07, 2016 4:12 pm

Couple of thoughts.

They make polycarbonate clear doors that roll up for shops and stores.

Then you could also do a closet style folding door and use polycarbonate as the lights/glass. It would be light and tough. You would also only lose a few inches on each side when the doors are open so loading anything would not be an issue. Plus if you don't want them for a trip they can just be taken out of the tracks and put away.
Something like these.


I think that I like the poly roll up door idea. I just did a little research and I still need to find out the size of the box that the thing rolls up in, which would be hanging from the ceiling and may be a deal breaker.
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Re: French doors in back of ct

Postby Id10t » Wed Sep 07, 2016 6:53 pm

jerry4570 wrote:
Couple of thoughts.

They make polycarbonate clear doors that roll up for shops and stores.

Then you could also do a closet style folding door and use polycarbonate as the lights/glass. It would be light and tough. You would also only lose a few inches on each side when the doors are open so loading anything would not be an issue. Plus if you don't want them for a trip they can just be taken out of the tracks and put away.
Something like these.


I think that I like the poly roll up door idea. I just did a little research and I still need to find out the size of the box that the thing rolls up in, which would be hanging from the ceiling and may be a deal breaker.



Found this they may be able to answer some questions
http://diamondrollupdoor.com/products/architectural-doors/mini-clearvision-roller-shutter.php

The other option could be Storm doors.
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Re: French doors in back of ct

Postby jerry4570 » Thu Sep 08, 2016 5:16 pm

I was hopeful but the poly roll up doors require about 9" overhead for the panel to roll up, and it would interfere with the spring and spindle for the ramp. If they made one like an overhead (garage) door, it could work. I've decided to use a storm door in the middle with lexan panels, like side lites on both sides.
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Re: French doors in back of ct

Postby Id10t » Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:09 pm

jerry4570 wrote:I was hopeful but the poly roll up doors require about 9" overhead for the panel to roll up, and it would interfere with the spring and spindle for the ramp. If they made one like an overhead (garage) door, it could work. I've decided to use a storm door in the middle with lexan panels, like side lites on both sides.


what about 2 storm doors one right one left. You can also get the poly in sheets instead of lexan. Its still clear but insulates better and doesn't scratch as easily.
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Re: French doors in back of ct

Postby Hader » Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:45 pm

jerry4570 wrote:I thought I found a thread when I was lurking but cannot now. Does anyone know of a thread discussing installing french doors in the back of a cargo trailer?
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I just saw that thread you are talking about the other day. I saw a photo as a part of the build, but the thread was not about "French Doors".
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Re: French doors in back of ct

Postby jerry4570 » Mon Sep 12, 2016 3:04 pm

what about 2 storm doors one right one left. You can also get the poly in sheets instead of lexan. Its still clear but insulates better and doesn't scratch as easily.


Ok, I'll look for poly, I thought they were the same thing.
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