GTS225 wrote:I think I have to agree with Friz on all counts. There is much truth in points 1 & 2. Point three may be entirely in the local prosecutor's mind, and or agenda.
His last sentence, not so much. I think a Taurus Judge might be a good candidate for the assigned task. Gives one the benefit of a shot shell, and there are a number of loads , both lethal and non-lethal, for the .410. The thing is heavy and ugly, but sometimes function is more important than form.
Now, if the OP is thinking along the lines of other than two-legged intruders, a .410 is going to seriously leave you under-protected.
Roger
i realize both Fritz and Roger have somewhat strayed from the OP's OP butt i feel their responses have merit
i have often posed this issue to myself and have yet to resolve it in my own mind
as one who taught Hunter Education/Firearm Safety the issue of a prosecuter's agenda was impressed on me by the instructors i studied under
and as i read this and other related threads(many on other more conservative forums) the issue keeps cropping up
responsible management IMHO is the only solution
concealing a firearm in a manner that the rightful owner can have reasonable access is imperative
being able to safely maneuver it in a confined space(the threshold laws) is critical
being effective w/o having to "aim" is necessary for personal protection of those who feel the need
IMHO the logic/reasoning for my personal situation/needs is evolving toward products like the JUDGE and the SNAKE CHARMER(or similar) firearms that shoot shot shells
PISTOL style handling
SHOT SHELL use(not in solid projectile mode)
IN HOUSE protection only(though it could be IN VEHICLE mode in some instances)
IF the need is IN HOUSE in a TD or TTT then it needs to be easily reachable from the sleeping position
a padded(for not banging around in transit) slot/shelf/hook within the intended protector's reach while prone(above film clip) would be in order
if in the IN VEHICLE mode then a padded shelf over the windshield/in door pocket/in seat pocket(not under the seat) would be viable options that provide instant access w/o having to move anything butt your arm n hand(not the body)
all that being said i will be interested in reading different solutions offered by the forumites
ones with viable solutions/potentially viable solutions will likely be best if/when designed into their rigs prior to construction
hopefully the proposals will not be like my dad's where he kept a long barrel shotgun(unloaded) on his off hand side between the mattress and the wall while keeping the ammunition at the back of his underwear drawer in the hall way
sw