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Help with galley hatch

Postby HudsonHaines » Tue Apr 02, 2019 10:44 am

Hey there,
My build is nearing a close and I have run across an unexpected problem. The gap between my sidewall and my galley hatch is bigger than I would like it to be. The hatch will get a T-molding which is where I was going to install the foam gasket, but right along the curve the gap measures 1.5". Unfortunately, the hatch won't sit too much further into the trailer due to the kitchen counter. What can be done to close down that gap? Should I just stack some foam? I can't find any weather stripping over 1". Any advice is welcomed and thank you for helping me save this project :-)

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One more photo of my proposed plan before the gap surfaced so you can see how I was trying to make it fit.
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Re: Help with galley hatch

Postby troubleScottie » Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:55 am

Needed change: you must seal the outer edges of your hatch ribs and possibly the lower edge of your hatch -- they are exposed to weather. Even if or when covered by gasket or other materials.

One idea might be to notch the ribbing on the hatch to allow the hatch to close. Obviously more of an issue is there is a cross beam at the position of the counter. Or if the notch compromises the integrity of the ribs. No idea how much of a rib can be removed without failure. Could you brace the notch with metal ??

Two is to reduce the counter depth to allow the hatch to close. This might include rounding over the edge or cutting it at angle. Those draw saws might be able to make the cuts even if the counter cannot be moved. If the counter can be moved back, you would not be asking, right?

Two B is do both -- sharing the difference.

Three is to find 1 1/2" wide 1" thick gasket to fit along the entire edge of the hatch. Maybe a double door sill gasket?? Remember this gasket will experience high winds while driving. So any material will have to deal with the wind/exposure.

Your basic design -- the aluminum skin/T channel pressing down on a gasket seems to be a bit iffy. I know people do use it. However the design means that water/rain can be caught be the skin/channel and directed at the gasket-lid gap. The hatch could settle causing the skin to flex up, breaking or reducing the seal. The hatch could move up/warp also breaking the seal. The T channel is still susceptible to this issue.

A more common seal - an excellent drawing http://tnttt.com/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=70278&p=1242303&hilit=hatch+seal#p1242303 uses both a gasket and the mechanical channel routing to slow/reduce water penetration. However using this design instead of your current design would most likely mean that the skin on the hatch and likely the sides would have to be adjusted along with changes to the edge ribs and possible interference with cabinets. Most likely a too late design idea.
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Re: Help with galley hatch

Postby HudsonHaines » Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:42 pm

troubleScottie wrote:Needed change: you must seal the outer edges of your hatch ribs and possibly the lower edge of your hatch -- they are exposed to weather. Even if or when covered by gasket or other materials.

One idea might be to notch the ribbing on the hatch to allow the hatch to close. Obviously more of an issue is there is a cross beam at the position of the counter. Or if the notch compromises the integrity of the ribs. No idea how much of a rib can be removed without failure. Could you brace the notch with metal ??

Two is to reduce the counter depth to allow the hatch to close. This might include rounding over the edge or cutting it at angle. Those draw saws might be able to make the cuts even if the counter cannot be moved. If the counter can be moved back, you would not be asking, right?

Two B is do both -- sharing the difference.

Three is to find 1 1/2" wide 1" thick gasket to fit along the entire edge of the hatch. Maybe a double door sill gasket?? Remember this gasket will experience high winds while driving. So any material will have to deal with the wind/exposure.

Your basic design -- the aluminum skin/T channel pressing down on a gasket seems to be a bit iffy. I know people do use it. However the design means that water/rain can be caught be the skin/channel and directed at the gasket-lid gap. The hatch could settle causing the skin to flex up, breaking or reducing the seal. The hatch could move up/warp also breaking the seal. The T channel is still susceptible to this issue.

A more common seal - an excellent drawing http://tnttt.com/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=70278&p=1242303&hilit=hatch+seal#p1242303 uses both a gasket and the mechanical channel routing to slow/reduce water penetration. However using this design instead of your current design would most likely mean that the skin on the hatch and likely the sides would have to be adjusted along with changes to the edge ribs and possible interference with cabinets. Most likely a too late design idea.



Thanks for the reply. I do intend to seal the side ribs, and then they will also get that T molding over them. Hoping that is enough to keep them weather proof.

As for your options:
One: Notching is certainly an option. I haven't really explored this yet, but will look into it. My hatch is very sturdy (probably too sturdy) so I wouldn't be too concerned removing a small amount of the ribbing.
Two: The counter would be pretty difficult to move, but I have thought about trying to cut it back. I thought about just trying to route the edge to be round, but I'm not sure if that would be enough.
Three: I can't seem to find any gasket over 1", so I would have to stack two on top of eachother. Not sure how well that would work though.

Thanks for your reply.
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Re: Help with galley hatch

Postby Modstock » Tue Apr 02, 2019 4:46 pm

Cut the ribs and the counter or start over on the hatch.
I kept putting a camera in to check the rib fit when I built the cabinets in the hatch.

Any inside pics of the counter and ribs.


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Re: Help with galley hatch

Postby HudsonHaines » Wed Apr 03, 2019 6:40 am

Thanks for everyone for these suggestions. My hope is that there is a way to move forward without a complete rebuild of the hatch. Everything else about it is fitting fine I'm not sure that rebuilding would help, as the hatch would have to be very thin. I think the bigger issue may lie that the counters are too far back. Without huge devastation to the existing structure, does anyone have any thoughts or ideas to close this gap down and keep moving forward?
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