I Hate These Things

[Toytaco2]

I have at least 6 different Coleman stoves in the garage, some propane and some white gas models. The only one I really like is the cheap 2 burner propane model. I like the convenience of the small disposable propane bottles and the uniform heat from the two burners when using a double griddle (something the white gas models don't do very well). What I really hate, is that it utilizes one of these things:



This stove to bottle connection is clumsy and always has the bottle on the table surface right beside the stove. I've tried a hose running from the connector to a bottle on the ground, but, its still clumsy because of the need to have that hated connector on the table top. Does anyone have any thoughts on how to safely eliminate this with different parts, or perhaps safely modify it some way?

Thanks,

Mike

[John61CT]

There are adapters all over the web, eBay Amazon etc.

Coleman 1# bottle connection is commonly referred to that way,

also 1"-20

female on the bottle side, male toward that stove connection

semi-flexible copper pipe with flared connections

will be safer, last longer than flex hose with barbs - leak test regularly!

[GuitarPhotog]

There are adapters all over the web, eBay Amazon etc.

Coleman 1# bottle connection is commonly referred to that way,

also 1"-20

female on the bottle side, male toward that stove connection

semi-flexible copper pipe with flared connections

will be safer, last longer than flex hose with barbs - leak test regularly!

The trouble is that those 1# bottles are at "tank pressure" nominally 150 or so PSI depending on temp and amount of propane in the bottle. The stove wants propane at less than 1 PSI (approx 11" of water column), so you need a regulator somewhere in the line. If you can find a tank - RV stove regulator, you might be able to adapt it, if you can find the connector that connects that thing to the stove.

I just replaced the 1# tank with a 10 ft hose to a BBQ propane tank and don't worry about the regulator and hose on the counter.

My $0.02 worth

<Chas>

[John61CT]

I'm not talking about replacing anything

just jerry rigging an extension hose

Also there are tint adjustable regulators too

great for adapting various bottle types, including butane to propane and v/v

South Korean stuff is jewel quality, and priced accordingly.

Yes if you can tap off the stick USA 20# BBQ bottle that's by far cheapest gas in the world

[Toytaco2]

I just replaced the 1# tank with a 10 ft hose to a BBQ propane tank and don't worry about the regulator and hose on the counter.

My $0.02 worth

<Chas>

That’s the same solution I’ve used so far. I’ve even been able to connect to one of the 1 lb bottles with an adapter. But, I’d still like to get that funky shaped tube & regulator off the table top.


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[saltydawg]

https://www.amazon.com/WADEO-Pressure-B ... 00&sr=8-68

Here ya go, it connects to a standard propane tank mounted reg and hose.

[gudmund]

trouble is = the Blackstone mentioned here will only fit a Blackstone stove and the Coleman will only fit Coleman (that is if one could be found, being Coleman doesn't sell any of the "just brass valve' fitting's that I have found yet - only their replacement brass w/regulator's seen in the picture here are offered for sale by them. And a lot of Coleman's regulator's only fit 'certain' Coleman stoves = they are not all 'common' with each other. Have found a lot of 'other' company's selling the brass valves they say are made for Colemans, but as for them fitting ????? There are different type's of threads and sizes being used by all of these company's.
Now when it comes to CampChef, I have found they do have a lot of interchange-ability with other brands - example: have found Stansport and CampChef to be common with each other. Also Cabela/Bass Pro stoves are the same as CampChef...............

[saltydawg]

trouble is = the Blackstone mentioned here will only fit a Blackstone stove and the Coleman will only fit Coleman (that is if one could be found, being Coleman doesn't sell any of the "just brass valve' fitting's that I have found yet - only their replacement brass w/regulator's seen in the picture here are offered for sale by them. And a lot of Coleman's regulator's only fit 'certain' Coleman stoves = they are not all 'common' with each other. Have found a lot of 'other' company's selling the brass valves they say are made for Colemans, but as for them fitting ????? There are different type's of threads and sizes being used by all of these company's.
Now when it comes to CampChef, I have found they do have a lot of interchange-ability with other brands - example: have found Stansport and CampChef to be common with each other. Also Cabela/Bass Pro stoves are the same as CampChef...............

Opps I did not catch that was the blackstone one. I bought one for a friend that worked with the coleman stove he has, I must have just gotten lucky for it to match the one he needed.

[tony.latham]

For my 2013 build, I plumbed the stove with a rubber hose to feed to a 1-pound bottle in the drawer below the stove.



It wasn't difficult since the hose feeds into the back of that stove. (And why I chose it.)

For the teardrop I built for my sis a few years back, I plumbed the line from under the counter and up through the back of it. It feeds to where that 1-pounder is on the back. I cut the aluminum line and spliced it with a rubber propane line with hose clamps. After the 11" WC regulator bumps the pressure down, it's only .4 PSI.



For my 2019 build, I plumbed the stove from an 11-pound tank using rubber propane line.





I don't miss those bottles.

Tony

[Toytaco2]

For the teardrop I built for my sis a few years back, I plumbed the line from under the counter and up through the back of it. It feeds to where that 1-pounder is on the back. I cut the aluminum line and spliced it with a rubber propane line with hose clamps. After the 11" WC regulator bumps the pressure down, it's only .4 PSI.

Tony

I’m just a hack when it comes to propane stuff, so, for safety's sake, I try not to get real creative. I've considered something like this using the standard Coleman fitting pictured above. I don’t know if this would be a stupid thing to do, but, I’ve considered using a tubing cutter to cut out a section of tubing between the regulator and the fitting, leaving just enough on each part to connect a section of rubber propane tubing with hose clamps. Seems like you could then relocate the bottle and regulator.

Any opinions on this? Would it be a safe alternative? All in all though, I think I’d prefer to stay with standard parts or well designed adapters to keep everything as safe as possible.


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[gudmund]

agree - don't miss the 'little' bottles nor "todays" $$$$$$$ for one!!!! W-M now has them for about $3.60ea which seems to be about the lowest $$ I have seen this last year or so, around my neck of the woods - and when on the road traveling this last Sept, I saw a lot of them at $5.00ea+++ and somewhere I saw one for over $7.00 !! (at a KOA). A couple years ago I was able to get them at my local Coleman Outlet store for under $3 each = they now have them at $3.99ea. Had my 1.2gallon (5 pound) Manchester tank filled the other day for $3.25 which is the equal of "" 5 "" of the 'little' ones (and yes, I still do carry "one" of the little ones in the tongue box just in case - if need be (one I paid less than $3 for a few years ago!! still has the price tag on it to prove it being I'm so cheap!!) ................

[kmack67.km]

I hate those things too; the bend in the metal tubing is only useful to hold the top of a 1lb bottle high enough that you don't get liquid propane into the regulator. If you are using it with an upright refillable tank under the table or elsewhere, a short straight piece of metal tubing would be far superior. Has anyone run into one like that?

Best regards,
Kevin

[John61CT]

In case some don't know, there are 1#ers designed to be refillable, including decanting off a bigger bottle.

Refilling the disposable ones is dicey, maybe for at home outdoors only

but not for a little mobile living space, and illegal to cross state lines.

Also, using flex / rubber hoses rather than copper lines, make sure to inspect and soap-test if not pressure-test very regularly.

I would proactively replace every few years myself as well.

[tony.latham]

Seems like you could then relocate the bottle and regulator.

That's what I did. I used propane hose, not some generic hose from the hardware store. Each end has two hose clamps.

It's just a minute amount of pressure in the line after the regulator.

Tony

[rjgimp]

For the teardrop I built for my sis a few years back, I plumbed the line from under the counter and up through the back of it. It feeds to where that 1-pounder is on the back. I cut the aluminum line and spliced it with a rubber propane line with hose clamps. After the 11" WC regulator bumps the pressure down, it's only .4 PSI.

Tony

I’m just a hack when it comes to propane stuff, so, for safety's sake, I try not to get real creative. I've considered something like this using the standard Coleman fitting pictured above. I don’t know if this would be a stupid thing to do, but, I’ve considered using a tubing cutter to cut out a section of tubing between the regulator and the fitting, leaving just enough on each part to connect a section of rubber propane tubing with hose clamps. Seems like you could then relocate the bottle and regulator.

Any opinions on this? Would it be a safe alternative? All in all though, I think I’d prefer to stay with standard parts or well designed adapters to keep everything as safe as possible.


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I think cutting that thing in half and putting whatever length of rubber propane hose in the gap to suit your needs is a brilliant idea. Really, as Tony said, downstream of the regulator is such low pressure it doesn't strike me as a concern at all. I would absolutely do it that way and relocate the bottle wherever is convenient.