Snuzie Cube

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Re: Snuzie Cube

Postby DrewsBrews » Sun Aug 22, 2021 8:33 pm

Today I marked the mid wall location on the side walls to line up the framing properly. Then I precut a bunch of the framing pieces. Basically prepping for the side walls to be in place.

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Re: Snuzie Cube

Postby DrewsBrews » Sun Aug 22, 2021 8:43 pm

Any suggestions on glue to use to adhere the side walls to the floor? The 1/2" floor plywood acts as a cleat that the side wall will sit against while the bottom edge of the wall will be directly on top of the pine frame. I doubt the joint will be gap free so I worry regular wood glue would have difficulty forming a strong bond down the full length. Though a construction adhesive may see too much squeeze out to bond properly as well. Probably going to screw from underneath up into the edge of the 3/4" wall (predrilling to prevent lamination splitting).

Gorilla glue maybe? or does wood glue still work in these situations?
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Re: Snuzie Cube

Postby Bezoar » Tue Aug 24, 2021 4:37 am

I used Loctite PL Premium - expands as it cures and fills gaps. Gotta clamp well or weight it down.

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Re: Snuzie Cube

Postby DrewsBrews » Tue Aug 24, 2021 6:17 pm

I thought more and decided to go with pocket screws instead of screws up into the end of the plywood. I know it is technically the better option and in this case any creep from the screw angle would actually pull it into the joint. I have a harbor freight pocket hole jig, but have had a lot of really bad tearout when using it on plywood. I purchased one of the basic Kreg kits today. Hoping the jig has better support around the hole, and the fresh bit should help too.

Still debating on the adhesive. Tightbond still has a slight lead for me since I have experience with it long term, but sounds like there is a vote for construction adhesive. Anyone else?
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Re: Snuzie Cube

Postby Graniterich » Tue Aug 24, 2021 6:30 pm

Perfect fit titlbond, may be a gap Pl all the way!
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Re: Snuzie Cube

Postby DrewsBrews » Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:41 pm

Drilled 29 pocket holes today, and cut holes for the wall vents.

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Doubled up on either side of the door

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Re: Snuzie Cube

Postby aggie79 » Thu Aug 26, 2021 3:02 pm

Looks good!

Regarding the adhesive, PL Premium has a much longer working time than Titebond. In August in Texas, Titebond has a working time of about 5 minutes. When I built my teardrop, I used PL Premium because of the working time and not because of gaps or loose tolerances.


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Re: Snuzie Cube

Postby DrewsBrews » Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:54 pm

:lol: Funny enough, that is the same conclusion I came to this evening when talking it out with my father.

While applying the canvas under the floor I found just how quickly even watered down TB will flash over out in the sun and heat. That would probably compromise the joint anyway since I can't realistically apply the glue and get the wall in place and all the screws installed to lock it down in time.

Good to hear Im on the right track. Thanks guys!
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Re: Snuzie Cube

Postby DrewsBrews » Sun Aug 29, 2021 1:07 pm

3rd dimension achieved!

With the help of a good friend the wall install went pretty well. The second wall did manage to creep a bit while we were finding square and installing the brace, but fortunately that was caught only a few screws into the install... Unscrew bump it back into place and re-screw. Did end up using PL premium and am impressed with it. I adjusted one of the braces within an hour and the wall already seemed to be self supporting with solid resistance to movement. Thanks for the suggestion guys!

Todays heat tempered my excitement a bit (humidity pushing the heat index into triple digits), but I did rummage around for the fenders and plop them on the mounts to get a look.
I sat inside and the thing does feel extremely tall. But that height is somewhat necessary in order to maneuver around comfortably on knees to the single door.
Near the top, down each side, does feel like wasted space to a certain extent. Thinking of potentially adding more storage up there. Though I am still very mindful about weight creeping in.

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Re: Snuzie Cube

Postby DrewsBrews » Wed Sep 01, 2021 7:54 pm

Got started on the spars. Trying to think ahead and strategically place 2x2s where shelves, counter, and cabinets will mount as well as where two sheets of skinning will butt up to have a satisfactory nailer/glue surface. Im already finding some things I might go back and add. oah well, as long as it happens before it is covered. Part way in I decided it would be much easier to go ahead and add the blocks as I go.. fighting the lazy urges to not get the saw out.

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Re: Snuzie Cube

Postby DrewsBrews » Fri Sep 10, 2021 3:01 pm

Not much real work done to speak of recently. Been brain storming on trying to get the last of the warp out of the side walls. One wall was cupped quite a bit while the other was very minimal. After the spars for the mid wall were installed it split the difference. So it is better but not perfect. Im thinking of using ratchet straps to pull it in place, then after interior skin is glued and dried the strap can be removed. Leaving a very close fit from the skin to the side wall.
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Re: Snuzie Cube

Postby DrewsBrews » Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:42 pm

I did the ratchet strap idea while installing the blocking... Put straps surrounding the cabin mid wall and added a ~16" block on one side to put pressure mid way down on the outward cupped side wall (should have snapped a pic, I could re-enact it if needed). Didn't take much force to correct, and the blocking seemed to take up the slack and keep the change permanent. Then today I did some initial cuts on the interior skin to get them more manageable to move around. Fortunately the skin for the mid wall (sleeping side) fits well with straight/square cuts. There will be an additional piece up top and the seam will fall right behind the cabinet bottom. My thought was to potentially install the interior skin as spars are installed. That way it would be more manageable to maintain square one section at a time; then lock it in place with the skin sheet and move to the next section, preventing it all from being tweaked in a way that would require difficult cuts later .. Also might end up easier to maneuver the sheets in while not fully enclosed with the spars.

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Re: Snuzie Cube

Postby DrewsBrews » Sun Sep 12, 2021 7:26 pm

I know there is minimal movement down the grain of a board (spars), but should I be very mindful to maintain a small gap on either side of the interior skin? I currently have the sheets cut ~1/16" smaller than the interior width; purely for ease of install around any minor inconsistencies in the side wall plywood. Should that suffice? It would be a real bummer to pull the trailer out of storage for the camping season a couple years from now and find buckling.
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