Teardrop time is real!

Things that don't fit anywhere else...

Postby Steve_Cox » Tue Aug 22, 2006 6:29 pm

tonyj wrote:
madjack wrote:...it would never work...


So we are cultivating a group of people, who although pursue a related purpose, are just a bubble off from ripping each other a new one?

And we look so much like a friendly group.



I think that about sums it up Tony, Just watch out for those people that are only a half a bubble off. :lol:
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Postby nubwon » Tue Aug 22, 2006 6:38 pm

Only problem with being done is you then find yourself without a goal and determination.
So what to do?

Lets see............finish the shelves etc in the new shed.......finish painting the shop.........finish painting the shutters for the house...........tear down the "hurricane fence" that got torn up in "hurricane Rita"..........build the new picket fence that Connie wants to put with the new shed........move all the dog porch and cover to behind the new shed and away from our back porch.........help Connie build new flower beds to go with the new shed............paint the front porch........and I'm sure there are a coiple of things I'm fergettin..........oh, and go to the October gathering........ dang.......now I'm tired.........I think we need to take a weekend off and go camping to rest :thumbsup: ........yeah, thats the idea!!! too hot to work right now..........take a brake till about November when its nice and cool :relaxing:
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Postby Dean in Eureka, CA » Tue Aug 22, 2006 7:13 pm

Sonetpro wrote:Only problem with being done is you then find yourself without a goal and determination.
So what to do?
Start planning the next one. :twisted:


Yaa but... I started doing that right in the middle of the fist one and the "goal & determination" up and switched to the second one... :lol:
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Postby kirtsjc » Tue Aug 22, 2006 7:29 pm

bsandey wrote:You forgot the third biggest difference: (Can't really explain it here, but I'm sure you know what I mean.)


According to what I see in your avatar, you don't need a thumb to open a beer bottle, thus I must presume, logically and yet inferencially, that the third difference that you for some reason are reluctant to reveal, is that you can drink your beer lying down? :?
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Postby madjack » Tue Aug 22, 2006 7:37 pm

...Tony...I wasn't referring to us I was refferring to "them"...you know...the ones who have been fighting over sand, datenut palms, olive and cedar trees since the dawn of man...ya know..."them"
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Postby Sonetpro » Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:44 pm

nubwon wrote:
Only problem with being done is you then find yourself without a goal and determination.
So what to do?

Lets see............finish the shelves etc in the new shed.......finish painting the shop.........finish painting the shutters for the house...........tear down the "hurricane fence" that got torn up in "hurricane Rita"..........build the new picket fence that Connie wants to put with the new shed........move all the dog porch and cover to behind the new shed and away from our back porch.........help Connie build new flower beds to go with the new shed............paint the front porch........and I'm sure there are a coiple of things I'm fergettin..........oh, and go to the October gathering........ dang.......now I'm tired.........I think we need to take a weekend off and go camping to rest :thumbsup: ........yeah, thats the idea!!! too hot to work right now..........take a brake till about November when its nice and cool :relaxing:

That look's like Sherri's list. But none are my goals and I'm determined not to do them. :lol:
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Postby tonyj » Tue Aug 22, 2006 9:24 pm

madjack wrote:...Tony...I wasn't referring to us I was refferring to "them"...you know...the ones who have been fighting over sand, datenut palms, olive and cedar trees since the dawn of man...ya know..."them"
madjack 8)


I understood. I wonder if they know what they are fighting over. But if they would just build teardrops and run a charge wire from their alternator to charge the battery to 100% . . . oops! :oops: I set off the Katushka rockets again!

I guess teardrop time is easier to understand than formulating whirled peas.
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Postby madjack » Tue Aug 22, 2006 10:10 pm

tonyj wrote:
madjack wrote:...Tony...I wasn't referring to us I was refferring to "them"...you know...the ones who have been fighting over sand, datenut palms, olive and cedar trees since the dawn of man...ya know..."them"
madjack 8)


I understood. I wonder if they know what they are fighting over. But if they would just build teardrops and run a charge wire from their alternator to charge the battery to 100% . . . oops! :oops: I set off the Katushka rockets again!

I guess teardrop time is easier to understand than formulating whirled peas.


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Postby doug hodder » Tue Aug 22, 2006 10:13 pm

I don't know what the numbers are for tears...but as I recall, in Wooden Boat or Boat Builders magazine...typically 70% of the craft that get started by home builders, never see the water....what's tough is the hull stays bolted in a frame on the floor till you get it done and can turn it......tough with a 16 footer, let alone the larger ones, got plans for a 24' cabin cruiser.....by those standards, a tear is a lot easier..at least it's on a frame you can wheel around...like any large undertaking...your timeline is determined by the amount of time you can dedicate to the project and your pocketbook...it's all up to everyone here how fast or slow they build...but unlike a boat...here the design/options may change daily...just keep doing what you are doing...it'll all come together, you know if you can put more time into it or not...but when it's done...that's what you want to shoot for....it's wayyyyy fun, good luck everyone... :thumbsup: Doug
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Postby tonyj » Tue Aug 22, 2006 10:44 pm

Don't want to scare the new builders--the seasoned vets understand the time commitment as do I. I just wake each day a step closer to enlightenment at my complete and total disconnect when it comes to judging how quickly I can complete a project. Over a year to build a boat, home repair projects that are ongoing . . .car repairs that seemed to last forever. And I won't go into the amount of time it has taken to build my self esteem. Thought that one would be quicker.

To put my build in real time perspective, first, my shop is 60 miles away, so I only get to work on the weekends, and only til about 2 on Sunday. since last June, I know there have been about a dozen weekends that I didn't go to the shop, and several days when building and painting the frame that were delayed by rain (that was a long time ago!) So, 14 months works out to 60 weekends, less plus or minus a dozen weekends makes it 48 weekends. At an average of 1-3/4 days per weekend, that brings the build to 84 days. I have about 14 days before the LCG, and I will be mostly done by then. That makes it 98 days, so a little over three months of work. Not bad for this type of project. Especially when I have recut the doors three times, remade molding, spent hours and hours staring at the thing. But in my feeble mind, as I do on every project, when I started in June of last year, I thought I would be finished by fall. See what I mean? Maybe next time I will resort to drawing up or using a set of plans with dimensions.

And I still haven't figured out where I am going to mount the damn hottub. :thinking:
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Postby Larwyn » Wed Aug 23, 2006 5:23 am

I started the Escape Pod 2 years ago this month. Have had NO time to work on it for the last couple of months and very little chance of finding time for it for the next 3 months. If this is a "race" I am not doing to well................... :lol: :lol:
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Postby asianflava » Wed Aug 23, 2006 5:25 am

doug hodder wrote:I don't know what the numbers are for tears...but as I recall, in Wooden Boat or Boat Builders magazine...typically 70% of the craft that get started by home builders, never see the water....what's tough is the hull stays bolted in a frame on the floor till you get it done and can turn it......tough with a 16 footer, let alone the larger ones, got plans for a 24' cabin cruiser.....


I'll bet that there is a direct relationship between length and completion precentage.

tonyj wrote: Over a year to build a boat, home repair projects that are ongoing . . .car repairs that seemed to last forever. :


Tell me about it, my next project (or re-projected) is to pull the trans out of my rice burner so that I can save a little money on gas. The trailer is taking up valuable garage space. At least now I can leave it outside without fear of rain (not like I've seen rain for a month and a half now). And don't forget about the grass that doesn't stop growing so you can catch up on your projects.

tonyj wrote: So, 14 months works out to 60 weekends, less plus or minus a dozen weekends makes it 48 weekends. At an average of 1-3/4 days per weekend, that brings the build to 84 days.


So they say that it will take "A Month of Sundays" to build, you can correct them and say that it took two. :lol:
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Postby Joanne » Wed Aug 23, 2006 5:37 am

I'll bet it's not linear though. The larger the boat, the more complex the systems & cabinetry.

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doug hodder wrote:I don't know what the numbers are for tears...but as I recall, in Wooden Boat or Boat Builders magazine...typically 70% of the craft that get started by home builders, never see the water....what's tough is the hull stays bolted in a frame on the floor till you get it done and can turn it......tough with a 16 footer, let alone the larger ones, got plans for a 24' cabin cruiser.....


I'll bet that there is a direct relationship between length and completion precentage.

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Postby dhazard » Wed Aug 23, 2006 9:10 pm

All I got to say on this subject is that I Will Be Done by the end of the year…
Just don’t ask what year. :lol:

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Postby Ira » Thu Aug 24, 2006 7:50 am

This thread inspired me.

I'm taking off tomorrow to work on mine tomorrow AND Saturday.
Here we go again!
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