HF TRAILER - Other Bearings

[BILLYL]

Howdy


With all this talk about the bearings in the HF trailers - there have been many threads about using other manufacturers bearings. Unless I haven't read them carefully I don't see part numbers that are associated with them. Example - if I breakdown near a NAPA store what bearings would I get?

So how about a list of those manufactures that others have used and the part numbers. Maybe we could then make a STICKY for this list.

Thanks

Bill

[Artificer]

Has anyone actually suffered bearing failure with properly repacked bearings? If so, how many miles? I'm just curious. I've been busy lately, so I may have missed the thread. Hopefully everyone knows to repack the bearing in all Harbor Freight trailer before the first tow: Its actually in the instructions.

[sdtripper2]

Bill, Artificer & All:

I have been working to get bearing information corralled in the Sticky thread
@ the top of the Trailer forum:

Trailers and axle information here including bearing maintenance:
T&TTT Forum Suggests 5 Trailers for New builds HERE~

Below is an excerpt of the above link corresponding to the HF maintenance
for the three trailers the forum most often recommends:

Bearings and Seals/Covers

Note: Check your trailer Owners Manual for
bearing and seal maintenance prior to running your trailer as well as on
going considerations of maintenance time frames. As a rule it is considered
wise counsel to check & or consider repacking wheel bearings before first use.

There have been many threads on what to do about bearings and
Seals/Caps for the HF trailers. The discussions are around the metric
bearings that these trailers use. As of this writing I have not gotten a
satisfactory listing of maintenance part #s for the trailers here that
we have been touting. I have listed an incomplete list that may
help you get more information from HF for on going maintenance
for your trailers. These numbers may need revising.

Harbor Freight Customer Service Representative
Monday-Friday 9:00 - 5:30 EST at 1-800-444-3353

HF model 90154 ITEM 90154-8VGA HF 1175 LB. $239.0
HF CAPACITY 48" x 96" FOLDABLE UTILITY TRAILER WITH 12" WHEELS

Bearing type .............................(28079 BEARING 25M 284 2.85)
Bearing part number..................ITEM 93834-0VGA
Cost about................................$4.99
Need 2 Bearings per wheel 4 per trailer.

Bearing seal/cap.......................(27737 GREASE SEAL 229 1.00)
Bearing seal /cap part #............ITEM 93833-0VGA
Cost about................................$2.99
Need 2 per trailer.
***

HF model 40597 ITEM 40597-0VGA HF 1800 LB. $399.99
HF CAPACITY SUPER HEAVY DUTY 48" x 96" UTILITY TRAILER WITH 5 LUG
12" WHEELS AND TIRES NOT FOLDABLE

Bearing type .............................(Unknown special order HF)
Bearing part number..................Vendor# 11239 set of 4 bearings
Cost about................................$15.89
Need 2 Bearings per wheel 4 per trailer.

Bearing seal/cap.......................(Unknown special order HF)
Bearing seal /cap part #............Vendor# 13922
Cost about................................Unknown
Need 2 per trailer.
***

HF model 93747 ITEM 93747-2VGA Black HF 1500 LB. $499.00
HF CAPACITY 60'' x 96'' trailer 12'' WHEELS AND TIRES NOT a folding trailer.

Bearing type .............................(Unknown special order HF)
Bearing part number..................Vendor # 27 2 each need 2 packs
Cost about................................$9.00
Need 2 Bearings per wheel 4 per trailer.

Bearing seal/cap.......................(Unknown special order HF)
Bearing seal /cap part #............Vendor # 29
Cost about................................$2.91
Need 2 per trailer.
***

I have run into some difficulty with getting the data needed to answer your
questions Bill. They being what are the exact METRIC Bearing sizes for each
of the three recommended HF trailers???

If you look at the Bearing and Seals /cover section. You will see the
three HF trailer information I have compiled so far by looking at threads. I
have had emails back and forth to HF and phone calls.
If anyone knows more details on the HF bearing information please PM
me and give the data to me and I will uPdate that Sticky?

Again my goal was to have a comprehensive page on the trailers that are
most often suggested here on the forum including maintenance.
***


Yes it would be good to have a source for bearings & seals other than HF.

To that end this is what I have so far:

Alternative Metric Bearing and Seal Vendors

Joseph talks of "Maryland Metrics" as an alternative source for bearings and seals

This may be a source for HF maintenance parts.
Maryland Metrics, a dealer for AnySeals.com
***

Bottom line:
I would like to get more data and even HF metric numbers let alone try to
find other vendors that have the same bearings for those that want to
buy the maintenance parts elsewhere>?

[Kevin A]

Steve,

If you do a google search for "bearings inc." you'll find a list of bearing companies natinwide that should be able to match most any bearings by dimension, including the HF bearings.

[sdtripper2]

If you do a google search for "bearings inc." you'll find a
list of bearing companies nationwide that should be able to match most any
bearings by dimension, including the HF bearings.

Hi, Kevin & All:

Your suggestion and information has some bearing on the situation,
however, the google search to me is like getting the cart before the horse.

Maybe I am missing a key point here?

Here is what I am dealing with:
I don't know the dimensions of TWO of the trailer bearings and seals.
I do have ONE set that HF has given.(see above) HF don't supply the
other two and say it would be a special order. I haven't got any
maintenance parts in hand from the two trailers.

Now Joseph has had luck getting some bearings from Maryland Metrics and
he is the only one on this forum.... (That I can find) that has mentioned
getting bearings for HF from another source. I am assuming he got them
for the HF model 90154 = 1175 LB. Even that I am not sure of.

I understand after getting the dimensions that hunting down some
company selling bearings that could match them would be a matter of
google & fingers on phone.

My issue is doing this research PRO-actively for the forum while not
having the trailers to use to look at and see the parts involved.
As well as having uncooperative HF people willing to do the extra customer
service efforts required to get me the numbers needed for the two trailers
maintenance. I have not gotten a satisfactory response as to why
they have maintenance parts for one trailer and can't give me the others.
When asked if they understood that maintenance is an ongoing effort for
their customers and these numbers should be available LIKE the model
90154 ... they basically say sorry good bye.

Now I have a possible solution:
If there are any forum users out there that have HF models 40597,
93747 or any other HF trailer and need bearings and seals to call and get
the HF people to special order them. This way when the person from the
forum gets these maintenance items they can share all the information with
me and I can uPdate the information on the Thread? Maybe someone has
already got parts or have looked at theirs and has this information
and could share if they read this thread>?

[madjack]

...one problem with the HF trailers are that some were made in China and some in Eastern Europe and some in (Mars) ???? and who knows where else...

Maybe some of the guys who have them can get a micrometer and pull the bearings/seals out and take some measurements, then looking for the proper replacement bearings/seals could begin.

To be perfectly honest, all of this is one reason I would never own a HF trailer...RedTrailers or TSC would be a better choice for a bolt together and for me, a custom frame is the way to go...even if you have no welding skills, I bet you know someone who does...buy the steel, cut it, jig it and have a weldor come weld it...even if you have to pay, a competent weldor can do the welding on a jiged up frame in no more than a couple of hours...and don't forget...you CAN build your own bolt together trailer............
madjack

[Kevin A]

Steve,

I hope I didn't step on any toes with my response, it surely wasn't my intention.
I was speaking from an automotive machinist point of view on how to locate replacement bearings. I don't own an HF trailer and don't have the bearings in hand to measure them, but I would find it helpful to have a set in hand to take measurements and research the possibilty of locating part numbers from another source other than HF.
You're efforts in compiling links and information is greatly appreciated and I would be willing to help locate those part numbers if I had the physical dimensions in hand.
Keep up the good work,

[sdtripper2]

Kevin:

I would be willing to help locate those part numbers if I had
the physical dimensions in hand.

I will surely use your helpful hand in verifying the proper sourcing of
maintenance parts when I get more data. Thank you for suggesting
you would help corral those metric bearing generic numbers so we
can provide them to all.

Now wouldn't it be the MadOne to suggest:

problem with the HF trailers are that some were made in China and some in Eastern Europe and some in (Mars) ???? and who knows where else...

The MadOne just likes to make my bearings a world wide & now galactic scavenger hunt now don't he?

.

[madjack]

Kevin:

I would be willing to help locate those part numbers if I had
the physical dimensions in hand.

I will surely use your helpful hand in verifying the proper sourcing of
maintenance parts when I get more data. Thank you for suggesting
you would help corral those metric bearing generic numbers so we
can provide them to all.

Now wouldn't it be the MadOne to suggest:

problem with the HF trailers are that some were made in China and some in Eastern Europe and some in (Mars) ???? and who knows where else...

The MadOne just likes to make my bearings a world wide & now galactic scavenger hunt now don't he?

.

.just trying to add some clarity to the subject ....besides you love a good challenge...don't ya...
madjack

[rasp]

one could check when repacking, if there are any numbers on the bearings and seals, those numbers can be cross referenced with the IBE.
the numbers on the cup would be harder to get as they are on the wide face and that faces inwards. one would have to remove the cup, with risk of damage. so i would just expect that the cups would be standard cup and not an oddball. so what ever cup was listed in the IBE for the cone, would most likely be the one.

[sdtripper2]

MadOne:

you love a good challenge...don't ya...?

Well, my challenge as far as HF goes is becoming more like the Challenger.
That is with your last information explaining the many manufacturing places
that HF has relied uPon, my task seems destined to be as going into space
to touch the stars. Maybe I should ... well a part of we humans is out there
with the Voyager Expedition capsule in space.

Link below is a Radio program of Voyager and more on the Golden Record:
Best listened to by a high speed connection while surfing = 1 hour long "Entertaining = yes":
Here is a link that goes to a Radio lab listen link that explains how small we
are in the Universe ... let alone the bearings that would be Harbor Freight,
where ever they may be.



Our humanities time capsule record, going out to space not to be confused with HF bearings:
Read more about the Golden Record Cover
Read and see even more about the Golden Record Cover

[bdosborn]

Here's some more bearing info for the 1800# model:
http://tnttt.com/viewto ... or+freight
Bruce

[Cmdr]

Hello To All,
I just found a number for the outer bearing on the hub for a H.F. 5x8 trailer model # 93747..... I hope it's the one....Infact it's the only number I could find.....ZXY 30205........I hope that works....Will do more research and report back later.
Cmdr

[artfd]

I just got one & am assembling it. Thought I would get a spare set of seals & bearings now rather than later. What follows is a transcript of the email I got from Harbor Freight after I placed an order

"Thank You for Ordering from Harbor Freight Tools

***Order Summary***
(quantity)---Part #------------------------Name-------------------Price, each
4-------------28735-0ZZA 90153---------BEARING (30205)-----@ $2.85
2-------------27737-0ZZA 42708/42709-GREASE SEAL----------@ $1.0

Subtotal:      13.40
Tax Rate:      0.0
Tax Total:     0.00
Shipping:      6.99
Handling:      0.00
TOTAL:        $20.39"

[Cmdr]

ArtFd,
The front & back wheel bearings on my 5'x8' H.F. bolt together trailer are the same....If you e-mail SDtripper2 he will have all my research information that I did when I started getting replacement parts ahead of time.....SDtripper2 was suppose to place it in his parts blog for H.F. Trailers......Let me know and I will dig out my paper work.....I tried looking for my old e-mails and could not find anything...

Cmdr
SoCal