Don't the employers, corporations like Wal-Mart (though maybe not them in particular) and rich individuals, pay for the TV adverts that get the politicians elected? Sure in theory the public has the votes, but enough advertising will overcome that little hurdle, right? So can the politicians act against Wal-Mart and friends? Because then who will pay for the TV ads for the next election?
These are questions for you, but those are the problems we've got over here, except we've also got employee unions as well as corporations contributing. One possible solution is to provide government funding of political parties - sounds bad at first but, in addition to your vote, you get to decide which party gets your dollar or so from the public purse. Then the voter's votes, and subscriptions, are the only route to power.
Maine and Arizona are doing something like this for funding of state politicians. How's it working out, guys?
Andrew
Teardrops n Tiny Travel Trailersor t n ttt for short (tnttt.com) |
by Ira » Fri Jan 05, 2007 8:28 pm
Andrew, as much as some folks here would like you to believe otherwise, this country has the stupidest, most ill-informed electorate on the planet.
Barring NONE.
And it's on BOTH sides of the aisle!
For God's sake--it's a miracle if we get a 40% voter turnout in the FIRST place!
But as Joseph would like to poo-poo what this new democratic-controlled House and Senate represent...and retreating from his now stated libertarian BELIEFS but not voting record (and what the hell is that supposed to mean anyway?), here are the facts:
We now have Nancy Pelosi as third in line to the presidency. A WOMAN!
The Republicans were KILLED in the recent election because even registered Republicans were disgusted with this dope of a president and the Republican politicians that supported him at every beckon call.
Pelosi comes from SAN FRANCISCO, that horrible alien planet that believes in sexual rights (gay or straight, that's your private matter)..stem cell research (because science will cure horrible diseases), and a decent minum wage.
And this is ATHEMA to them!!!
And Joseph--before you start spewing some crap that Bush was for a minimum wage increase too, the fact is, he had to start appearing to agree to it when he was TOLD he had to. Probably by his shoeshine boy.
Yes, our president is indeed that stupid and unprincipled, so please spread the word and tell your fellow Yurps that the majoriuty of us here hate him TOO so don't hate US because of it!
But gee--what happened today? The very first day of Democratic control?
Minimum wage will be increased...lobbyist reforms so NO gifts whatsoever can be accepted by lawmakers...and the "push" is on to adopt this "radical" new philosophy:
That ALL over-the-budget spending must be paid for by either cutting spending in other areas--or by tax increases.
And the Republicans are crying bloody murder, because all they hear are "tax increases," and this could affect their cherished Iraq War.
For years and years and years, the Republicans have tried to bullshit us as the "responsible" party for fiscal responsibility, but after Reagan, Bush 1 and Bush 2...and then with a STELLAR performance and fiscal balance sheet by Clinton in-between...that illusion has been totally shattered.
You can't lie with the numbers, the CONFIDENCE and lack of fear that this country lived with under Clinton.
The Republican party is despicable, with many of their own members realizing it.
And for once in six very long, miserable years...Americans here are starting to feel HOPEFUL again.
Joseph--wanna make a bet on who's gonna be president in 2008? A REAL bet, with REAL money on the line?
I'll do it right now.
Barring NONE.
And it's on BOTH sides of the aisle!
For God's sake--it's a miracle if we get a 40% voter turnout in the FIRST place!
But as Joseph would like to poo-poo what this new democratic-controlled House and Senate represent...and retreating from his now stated libertarian BELIEFS but not voting record (and what the hell is that supposed to mean anyway?), here are the facts:
We now have Nancy Pelosi as third in line to the presidency. A WOMAN!
The Republicans were KILLED in the recent election because even registered Republicans were disgusted with this dope of a president and the Republican politicians that supported him at every beckon call.
Pelosi comes from SAN FRANCISCO, that horrible alien planet that believes in sexual rights (gay or straight, that's your private matter)..stem cell research (because science will cure horrible diseases), and a decent minum wage.
And this is ATHEMA to them!!!
And Joseph--before you start spewing some crap that Bush was for a minimum wage increase too, the fact is, he had to start appearing to agree to it when he was TOLD he had to. Probably by his shoeshine boy.
Yes, our president is indeed that stupid and unprincipled, so please spread the word and tell your fellow Yurps that the majoriuty of us here hate him TOO so don't hate US because of it!
But gee--what happened today? The very first day of Democratic control?
Minimum wage will be increased...lobbyist reforms so NO gifts whatsoever can be accepted by lawmakers...and the "push" is on to adopt this "radical" new philosophy:
That ALL over-the-budget spending must be paid for by either cutting spending in other areas--or by tax increases.
And the Republicans are crying bloody murder, because all they hear are "tax increases," and this could affect their cherished Iraq War.
For years and years and years, the Republicans have tried to bullshit us as the "responsible" party for fiscal responsibility, but after Reagan, Bush 1 and Bush 2...and then with a STELLAR performance and fiscal balance sheet by Clinton in-between...that illusion has been totally shattered.
You can't lie with the numbers, the CONFIDENCE and lack of fear that this country lived with under Clinton.
The Republican party is despicable, with many of their own members realizing it.
And for once in six very long, miserable years...Americans here are starting to feel HOPEFUL again.
Joseph--wanna make a bet on who's gonna be president in 2008? A REAL bet, with REAL money on the line?
I'll do it right now.
Here we go again!
-
Ira - Forum Storyteller
- Posts: 5652
- Images: 118
- Joined: Tue Nov 29, 2005 2:16 pm
- Location: South Florida
