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Campaign Finance

Postby Joseph » Sat Jan 06, 2007 4:43 pm

Rather than add more to the other political discussion going on here, I thought I'd start a new thread.

The comments about "election money" on the other thread made me wonder: has anyone here ever changed who they were going to vote for because of any campaign advertising blitz? :thinking:

I'd start a poll but I think polls should be left for things relevant to T&TTTs.

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Postby madjack » Sat Jan 06, 2007 5:31 pm

Pesonally I can't imagine basing a vote on the blurbs, especially what last minute blurbs might be saying...to do so would be like not doing your homework properly...of course the majority here are MUCH more informed than the common herd...I hope........
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Postby asianflava » Sat Jan 06, 2007 5:35 pm

I find the advertising blitz more annoying than anything.
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Postby Sonetpro » Sat Jan 06, 2007 6:59 pm

Why would the last minute lies and false promises change your mind.
Their record speaks for itself and it often is not what they are saying in the blurbs.
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Postby angib » Sat Jan 06, 2007 7:00 pm

In my experience, almost everyone believes that "While advertising works on other people, it doesn't affect me".*

However advertising in general definitely works, so this belief must be wrong in most cases. Entrenched Republicans or Democrats may not be swayed by advertising, but then they aren't the target of advertising, since their votes are not on offer.

It would be hard to believe that the Swift Boat Veterans ads had no effect on the last presidential campaign.

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Postby asianflava » Sat Jan 06, 2007 7:06 pm

angib wrote:In my experience, almost everyone believes that "While advertising works on other people, it doesn't affect me".*


Doesn't affect me because I fast forward thru them.
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Postby PaulC » Sat Jan 06, 2007 7:07 pm

I love this style of conversation due to the fact that it does not matter what we say or think. At the end of the day they will do what they have been doing for years and that, normally, has no bearing on the general population.
This also goes for being influenced by any means.
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Postby SteveH » Sat Jan 06, 2007 7:23 pm

PaulC wrote:I love this style of conversation due to the fact that it does not matter what we say or think. At the end of the day they will do what they have been doing for years and that, normally, has no bearing on the general population.
This also goes for being influenced by any means.
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Paul,

How true! That's why I'd like to see them ALL voted out! I mean, no incumbents re-eleted. THAT would show them we are tired of the same ole BS.
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Postby sdtripper2 » Sat Jan 06, 2007 7:25 pm

Most of the elections when the negative ads come I am suspicious first.
And don't change my mind as it is usually a muddy lie of sorts.

My rule of thumb is who ever is spending the most for advertising is usually
corrupt and their proposition or candidate isn't the one I should be voting for.

Another key is looking for those that support some political ad. Usually just
hidden from view is the big money interests that would loose out if the wrong
person or ballot measure was to pass.

I guess the word to the wise is follow the money.

As most have said don't trust politicians or skunks.
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Postby PaulC » Sat Jan 06, 2007 7:31 pm

The other thing I would like to point out, is that you Merkans :) can choose if you wish to vote or not. Down here they are that frightened that we will all sit at home on election day that they fine us if we do not place our ballot paper in the box.
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Postby dhazard » Sat Jan 06, 2007 8:01 pm

My thoughts on politicians, you can tell a lot about them by the enemies that they make.
So yes an add may change my mind, but not the way the add was intended.
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Postby Jiminsav » Sat Jan 06, 2007 9:12 pm

Never..the ad's are funny, but i'm not gonna change my vote for any ad...when Hillery runs for president, and films a ad in the nude, telling me personally i can have sex with her daughter...i still wouldn't vote for that lying cuss... :R
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Postby sjptak » Sat Jan 06, 2007 10:03 pm

"I'm (enter name her) and I approved this message."

Who really cares that you have approved a lie. Politician is nothing more than a four letter word.

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Postby Miriam C. » Sat Jan 06, 2007 10:55 pm

SteveH wrote:
PaulC wrote:I love this style of conversation due to the fact that it does not matter what we say or think. At the end of the day they will do what they have been doing for years and that, normally, has no bearing on the general population.
This also goes for being influenced by any means.
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Paul,

How true! That's why I'd like to see them ALL voted out! I mean, no incumbents re-eleted. THAT would show them we are tired of the same ole BS.


Think about this. If you vote out all the American politicians everytime, who is going to know the dirty secrets of the career people who run the country. Who will keep them in line. (of sorts) 8)

Paul--- :thumbsup: Wonder what your country would do if everyone paid thier fine. 8) Gee we could do that for free. We just need to have a law that doesn't allow anyone to take office if not voted for. :lol: ;)
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Postby Ira » Mon Jan 08, 2007 9:10 am

angib wrote:In my experience, almost everyone believes that "While advertising works on other people, it doesn't affect me".*

However advertising in general definitely works, so this belief must be wrong in most cases. Entrenched Republicans or Democrats may not be swayed by advertising, but then they aren't the target of advertising, since their votes are not on offer.

It would be hard to believe that the Swift Boat Veterans ads had no effect on the last presidential campaign.

Andrew


Touche!

It works--ALL of it. That's why they spend the money.

Andrew, are you familiar with the classic Daisy Girl commercial that Lyndon Johnson ran opposing Barry Goldwater in 1964? It basically won him the election, but it WAS so powerful and upsetting to some, that it only ran ONE time.

The quality here ain't great, but here's the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKs-bTL-pRg
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