Imus--Stay or Go?

[Laredo]

Oh, yeah, poor Imus. Rich man running some kind of kid-charity and spraying stupid all over the airwaves, it catches up with him and I'm supposed to feel bad? Boo effin' hoo, Donnie Boy. You messed up, now you got to deal with the consequences.
White and past fifty and ugly as homemade sin, then somebody finally got fed up with his spew.
So they wrote his sponsors and said we won't buy your crap if you finance his crap.
So the sponsors pulled out. Sounds like the "free market" to me.

All that said, I wanted Rutgers to win the NC 'cause, like, they played good ball from January on.
I don't care what music they listen to, or what lyrics. I like the way they play ball. UTenn is all right too, but they've had the NC six times before, let somebody else have a shot.

I don't listen to rap. That's why I listen to the radio announcer for my wcbb team even in the arena for live games, because the soundtrack over the tannoy is frackin' rap 'music' and I despise the stuff. But I ain't there for the music. I'm there for the ball game.

Imus wasn't on about the ball game. He was on about dissin' the players 'cause they didn't meet his standards for "hottie," or some junk like that, and his producer was playing along. Stupidness and ignorance crossed with bigotry and being too dumb to roam around loose, and now ... hey, shoulda thought about that before you shot off your big dumb mouth.

Couldn't've happened to a better start. Now it should happen to Limbaugh, Savage, O'Reilly, Glenn Beck, and the rest of those spewing idjits on FauxNews.

[madjack]

gee 'redo...do you think you could possibly clarify your thoughts on Imus ..........

p.s. I agree about all those other talkin' idjits............MJ

[Hamcan]

Jeez Laredo, do you feel better? I know I do , thanks.
Some things just need to be said!

JG

[Miriam C.]

Boy Laredo, I sure am glad you got that off my chest. Thanks

And thanks guys.

[ADK]

Well as all of you probably know by now Imus is history, done in by sponsors and media. While I do not listen to or watch his program I tend to agree with Ira.
His indescretion pales in comparison to the woman that accused those young men from Duke of violating her, those guys walked a tightrope for over a year until the truth was squeezed out, I wait patiently for the Rev,'s Sharpton and Jackson to condemn the violation of the human spirit so openly comitted by a person that truly does fit the description of "nappy headed ho".
I do not listen to Imus nor do I listen to Stern, both are basically a waste of time for me, the bottom line is that is how those people make thier living and like it or not those guys are here to stay. It does not matter what your color, race, political or religious preference is, all are fair game for the style of radio they do. The sponsors only tolerate it to the point of associating themselves with a problem child then they bail like rats leaving a sinking ship.
For all of the Imus fans, do not despair, he is 5 years into a 10mil./yr contract and he will be laughing all the way to the bank; then he will be picked up to do radio/video by some aspiring TV/Radio exec who will brilliantly reveal a silk purse from a sow's ear.

[Leon]

I hope he gets picked up by XM radio so I can listen to him while traveling.

[wolfix]

I am not that familiar with Imus's charity ranch or the other charity things he does. But it seems he is very generous/dedicated to certain causes.
I wonder how Imus's firing is going to affect these charities?
Will big Al and JJ step in and fill the void?

Do these 2 speak out against the rap music artists who demean women and specifically black women on a daily basis?
Of course not.

I think Americans need to wake up. Instead of blindly rushing forward all the time proclaiming "This is the best country in the world," we need to take a more critical look at the way things really are. With critical thinking we can keep things here in America on a even keel. When looking at history , great "empires' are usually destroyed from within, hardly ever from the outside enemies. Muslims and Iranians are not our greatest enemies. Blind patriotism is. Anyone that trusts government , no matter if the Democrats or Republicans are in charge, needs to look at buying the Brooklyn Bridge.

The Duke/Imus stories show us how we accept something on the surface and do not look at the overall picture. Was Imus wrong? Yes. But the overall picture is that more wrong will be done with his firing then right. His charities will be damaged.
Should a prison sentence be imposed in the Duke case? Of course. But not the boys. If the DA is not sentenced to a prison term at least 5 years then a terrible injustice has been done to Americans. We need to start imposing prison sentences on the people who abuse power in this country in the name of law enforcement.
What happened to the Duke boys is happening everyday in court rooms across America. The Duke boys escaped prison not because they are innocent, it's because their parents could afford good attorneys.

Yesterday, when Imus was fired, Americans allowed corporate America tell us again what we can or cannot listen to.....

[Ira]

1)The Duke boys escaped prison not because they are innocent, it's because their parents could afford good attorneys.

2) Yesterday, when Imus was fired, Americans allowed corporate America tell us again what we can or cannot listen to.....

On point 1, I want to say I was really touched that one of the accused kids said this. Not only was it the perfect thing to say, but he was the perfect one to say it at the perfect time.

On point 2, bravo. That puts a whole other slant on the issue, while also summing it all up.

[Mary K]

Do these 2 speak out against the rap music artists who demean women and specifically black women on a daily basis?
Of course not.

Yes, they did. On CNN Yesterday afternoon. A little too late, really.

Yesterday, when Imus was fired, Americans allowed corporate America tell us again what we can or cannot listen to.....

No, America told the sponsors they would not buy their stuff if they sponsored Imus.

Say you were a African American or a woman that worked for MSNBC, or worked for a sponsor that paid money to run adds on his show, what would you do?? I'd be filling out a card for the employee suggestion Box.

Or maybe your daughter was a basketball player.

There are so many sides to this coin, folks.

Mk

[Miriam C.]

Do these 2 speak out against the rap music artists who demean women and specifically black women on a daily basis?
Of course not.

Yes, they did. On CNN Yesterday afternoon. A little too late, really.

Yesterday, when Imus was fired, Americans allowed corporate America tell us again what we can or cannot listen to.....

No, America told the sponsors they would not buy their stuff if they sponsored Imus.

Say you were a African American or a woman that worked for MSNBC, or worked for a sponsor that paid money to run adds on his show, what would you do?? I'd be filling out a card for the employee suggestion Box.

Or maybe your daughter was a basketball player.

There are so many sides to this coin, folks.

Mk

Wiser words were never spoken.

[madjack]

I read an interesting article as the head of NBC explained their position...they are owned by GE and Imus in effect was an emplyee of GE and how what he did/said violated every tenant of their (GE) code of conduct..so that put them in the position of telling all other GE employees that in effect one person could do something wrong but that the rest couldn't(if they didn't take action against Imus)...I have never been a fan of Imus but there is so much negativity on the airwaves and in entertainment, that his outright firing, singleing him out is kinda hypocritical..I guess
madjack

[Ira]

Do these 2 speak out against the rap music artists who demean women and specifically black women on a daily basis?
Of course not.

Yes, they did. On CNN Yesterday afternoon. A little too late, really.

Yesterday, when Imus was fired, Americans allowed corporate America tell us again what we can or cannot listen to.....

No, America told the sponsors they would not buy their stuff if they sponsored Imus.

Say you were a African American or a woman that worked for MSNBC, or worked for a sponsor that paid money to run adds on his show, what would you do?? I'd be filling out a card for the employee suggestion Box.

Or maybe your daughter was a basketball player.

There are so many sides to this coin, folks.

Mk

So the fact that they're basketball players is supposed to make a difference? And I would somehow be more offended if my daughter is one than if she WASN'T?

Or just any daughter in general and I will be offended? But what if I'm NOT offended and I have a daughter? And I'm black to boot?

Or the word nappy headed?

Who comes up with the list of what's acceptable and what isn't?

PLUS, THE GUY EVEN TRIED TO APOLGIZE LEFT AND RIGHT! (If I were him, I would have said drop dead, I'm retiring.)

Folks, free speech isn't always pretty, but it's the LAW and it's the best system we got. What we got now are the Salem witch hunts, and it only applies to whites:

Blacks and other minorities can spew all the hate they want on the airways against Caucasians with total impunity.

Yep--I'm a liberal...but facts are facts.

And no--Americans didn't tell the sponsors they wouldn't buy their products. This is the biggest crock being spewed out there today:

Sponsors just didn't want the PR problems. In reality, there hasn't been a successful boycott since Selma.

Blacks may not like what Imus said, but if their favorite bleach is Clorox, they're still going to buy the crap, personal convictions be damned.

[Laredo]

Ira,
I was offended. I am not black and I don't have any daughters.
It wasn't just Imus who offended me, and it wasn't just the one remark he apologized for. It was the whole demeaning tone toward women in general that was being played for laughs.
I'm sick of this crap, and I'm shocked that you're defending these crap artists.
Plus, I don't really wanna hear "waah, waah, the black people get to use that language and I don't" because that's so phony and diversionary it's just unreal.

Imus and his producer should both be ashamed of themselves.
Their brand of "humor" is on a level with toilet jokes, and I wish we still lived in a country where that kind of "dumb and dumber" and demeaning "humor" wasn't applauded, but was kept off the broadcast airwaves -- radio and tv -- and out of movies.

People get up in arms over all kinds of insults to their dignity or their morals, but what these jerks -- and I'm cleaning my language about these tired old white has-been buttheads way up here -- did was wrong. Not just the one remark, not even just the one "instance", but the whole shtick.

It's cruelty.

Imus happened to hit on a way of turning it not just anti-basketball, anti-women in sports, anti- black women, but anti-civilized, respect for your neighbors.

If you're going to defend him, well -- you were raised different than I was.
That whole sphere of "entertainment" in its entire gamut from Rush Limbaugh to 50 Cent is every bit as socially worthwhile as pornography, and its purveyors ought to be treated the same way, only I'm thinking the way pornographers were treated before Hefner made it "kewl."

There is so little real difference -- the trappings and actual verbiage used to customize this hate-based material to audiences ranging from angry kids in the ghettoes to failed white guys in insurance offices, ad agencies, and auto maker boardrooms where they suddenly confront the meaninglessness of their professional endeavors or the harsh reality that just being white guys doesn't give them the right to By God rule the world differ, but the point is the same: I'm mad because I feel picked on, so I'm going to tattle and whine and try to make you think I'm right -- between Limbaugh and Father Coughlin, between Focus on the Family and the "kinder, kirchen, kitchen" line the Nazis fed women in Germany after World War I, between DMX and Don Imus, that it's incredible.

Hate and stupid come together and create money and power, and we're all supposed to bow down before it.

Not I.

My momma taught me better than that.

[Hamcan]

Very well said Laredo! I agree with every word.

Ira with due respect for your right to have an opinion and your right to free speech may I ask just who told you that your views were liberal? Your opinions always appear to be somewhat right of center or am I reading them all wrong? I know that you are some what of a humorist so it may just be my perception.

JG

[Miriam C.]

Very well said Laredo! I agree with every word.

Ira with due respect for your right to have an opinion and your right to free speech may I ask just who told you that your views were liberal? Your opinions always appear to be somewhat right of center or am I reading them all wrong? I know that you are some what of a humorist so it may just be my perception.

JG

There ya go Ira! I tried to warn ya. I believe Ira explained that one in the beginning. He is feeling the sting of the double speak standard.

Besides, who's next?