Imus--Stay or Go?

[PaulC]

I cannot be bothered.

As Always,
Cheers
Paul

[Joseph]

Joseph, having debated with you in the past, I would not expect anything less than what you have done. The point I am making, is that some may consider it inflammatory to be responded to like that.

Funny, I thought it was Laredo's remarks that were inflammatory.

Now here's something I never suspected about Imus - apparently, at least according to the LA Times, some Democrat strategists relied on him to reach the independent white male voting bloc and his loss leaves them searching for a way to fill the void.

But even knowing that, unlike some on this forum, I do not wish him silenced just because I disagree with him politically. It does make me wonder, however, if the Reverends Sharpton and Jackson were working for Karl Rove to bring Imus down...

Joseph

[wolfix]

I saw the Rutgers team on TV last night. They were sitting there looking totally dejected. What a joke. If this really bothered these girls they have a long tough road ahead of them. I am willing to bet they would have never noticed what Imus said if it was not pointed out to them.

Double standards..... If a similar comment was made about a Final Four team in the men's tournament, nothing would have been made of it.

These girls were used by the media and the agenda of Al.S and JJ. Certain individuals in opposing media love seeing Imus take a fall. As it was stated earlier, Imus was a small but important piece in the Democratic Party cog. The country right now is in a Presidential selection mode and this was a small victory for the Republican Party. And it is generally assumed that the Republican Party is not the choice of minorities. So did Al S and JJ really help the minority cause ? As close as the last Presidential election was in the swing states where minorities have a presence, I would say that minorities lost a very small battle to have a say in our country.

Not only was the Rutgers team used by the political wing of the media, the general public was manipulated by Al S and JJ. The manipulation used on the sponsors of Imus affect everyone in our right to choose. While there are some people cheering the decision to fire Imus, all that has really occurred is one more nail has been driven in the publics right to free speech.

I never liked Imus's show. But watching this develop over the past week has me questioning the state of freedom here in the United States. The "real' freedom we have, not the freedom we were taught in school by a third grade teacher.

[Joseph]

I cannot be bothered.

Understood.

Joseph

[Ira]

Boy, some great sentiments uttered above! But curiously, only from those who share my slant on this.

The other comments were simply, "He offened...and should be fired."

I listen to some conservative talk radio because many of those sentiments and expressions DO offend me--but I also learn from them. We have a nut here in South Florida named Steve Kane:

http://www.stevekaneshow.com/onair.htm

If you think what Imus said was offensive compared to THIS guy, you don't have a clue what truly hurtful speech is. But it's still LEGAL. And here's the real rub and the total nonsense of the "the listeners spoke" argument.

Kane runs a tiny radio show, limited area, AND EVERYONE WHO LISTENS TO HIS GARBAGE SUPPORTS HIM. And there are hundreds like him across the country. If Jackson and Sharpton came to town to get him fired, he wouldn't be fired because any listeners were offended.

It would happen because these two charlatans and crooks would pull every sleazy trick and race card from their sleeves to make a point.

Man, you lose your freedoms little by little. Then when you lose a HUGE chunk of it--the right to free speech--you don't even care. You even support it.

But oh, I forgot:

You didn't lose your right to speech; some other guy did. So that's okay.

[Ira]

...you do not have the right to shout FIRE inna crowded theater...nor do you have the right to say what you want, when the air time is paid for by someone else(we have had this argument about postings on this board)...the market spoke...Imus was dropped when the advertisers pulled out...I betchbuddy, he will be back in one form or another...
madjack

That's the thing, as said above:

Why did the advertisers pull out?

They were being blackmailed by a small gang of black racists. And any other explanation falls short and just ain't true.

And I'll bet you dollars to doughnuts that CBS and MSNBC were blackmailed into making monetary "donations" to Jackson's organization as a way to help "mend fences."

He does this on a daily basis, so why not now?

Also, Imus has a contract, and CBS and MSNBC are still supposed to pay him. But of course, they'll come up with some BS excuse of how he violated this in the contract, violated that in the contract, as an excuse to not pay him.

Talk about SLEAZY--pales in comaprison to nappy headed hos.

[Miriam C.]

Ira he didn't loose free speech, he lost his job.

Media Matters pushed this around the country.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200704040011
Why is another story

[Ira]

Ira he didn't loose free speech, he lost his job.

You're going to stand by that semantic distinction?

Especially when his job WAS speech?

[Joseph]

Ira, for once it sounds like you and I are in complete agreement.

I think one of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse just rode by my window...

Joseph

[wolfix]

Losing fredoms........ During most of the years since 2000, I operated a bar where university students hung out. We were the liberal bar where professors from the humanities department, hippies, activists, and the like were welcome. In our area we had numerous bars.
At one point the local city installed camera's that went directly to the police station that were focused on the 9 bars that were on my street. This was paid for by "Heartland Security" money. Ok, everyone that thinks Heartland Security is the price we pay in this new era of terrorism needs to know where and how the money is actually spent...... I live in Iowa where I doubt any terrorist activity is going on where these bars are located......
When these camera's were placed, 99% of the university students did not see any harm to it........ And they are still there without a wimper from anyone...... The day those cameras were installed, we lost freedoms.....
The cameras needed to be taken down.....
When the youth are indoctrinated in the belief that government is there looking out for our benifit, we are in trouble......

Think about it........ We laugh and think big brother is just a joke...... and here is what I think is funny....... The right wingers appauld this activity such as the cameras......
Who do you think the government is going after next but the right wing Christians???....... Many in government already think they are dangerous.
We will see an attack directly on them in the next 10 years..... Things like this always come back and bite you in the ass.

And yet we are force fed the thought that we as Americans fight for freedoms..... Freedom fighting begins at home. Freedom is a great thing. But freedom for one group is also freedom for another. You can't have it both ways.
The Imus firing is really a bad day for freedom.

***** OMG. I almost sound like a liberal.
I better go to Home depot and price out birch plywood.

[Laredo]

Is it provocative to stand up for what is right?
Is it inflammatory to defend my beliefs?
If so, I am guilty.

Imus's right to free speech is like my right to swing my fist, Joseph. I can swing my fist as often and as hard and as long as I want, but if it so much as brushes your clothing, you can have me arrested for assault and battery.

I seriously doubt any of the Rutgers players regularly listen to Imus -- they have lives, and b-ball practice besides.

But seriously, why would anyone feel the need to defend Imus, and his cohorts, for PUTTING DOWN hard work, accomplishment, and superior performance?

Oh, yeah, that's right. The people who worked that hard, performed that well, and accomplished a trip to the National Finals game (while not wearing, or tearing off, streetwalker-inspired "cute" clothes for the titillation of Imus and his "right-thinking" -- e.g. women exist to turn me on, and once I've used them they're disposable -- ilk) -- were young, and female, and black. Three strikes against them, in America these days.

For shame.

[Miriam C.]

Ira he didn't loose free speech, he lost his job.

You're going to stand by that semantic distinction?

Especially when his job WAS speech?

Yeah. SO!

Ira why did you start your own Magazine instead of writing for someone else? Do you have free speech? Would you have free speech if you wrote for another Magazine?

[Miriam C.]

OK I put my tin foil hat on. This smacks of public manipulation by some one.

The left wants to reach Middle class, white, male fence sitters---they fire Imus and make him an Icon for free speech for the "Angry White man."

The right wants Imus off the air because he picks on GWB---They get Imus fired using the left to do the dirty deed making the left look bad to "Angry white men."

Angry White men want to point the racism in America---they get Imus fired and charged with a hate crime.

Imus thinks all this is hillarous and really wants to start his own media outlet with a good strong kick---enlists the aid of Rosy who he will boost in ratings by calling a "Fat Hoe".

All of the above is true if you put a thick enough layer of tinfoil on so the rays can't keep the truth out.

[Dooner]

Don't be a nappy headed ho, vote for Imus for President!

[madjack]

hey Dooner...I know that you are just tyoing to be facetious BUT do you realize just how offensive that statement can be...just ask Imus..........
madjack