Camp ADK Spring TearUp 2007

[anonymous2]

Alan & Leslie,


Boy I must be old school,I still use paper maps,no wrong directions like Map Quest and others. I have a GPS,but rarely use it traveling{that's why GPS stupid}.I use mine mostly for speed & distance for my bike & canoes. I am getting a new cell phone that even has turn by turn directions with built in GPS feature,and speaker. Now that will probably take me a year to learn.LOL I have a serial to USB adapter,but it doesn't recogonize the GPS when hooked up to my computer??? Software??

Anyway, thanks for your assistance. I will play with mine and see if I get it working with the computer. BTW what kind of drinks are you interested in for your hard labor? Looking forward to paddling with you guys,and others at Fish Creek.

pateardropper

[toypusher]

Alan & Leslie,


.............. I have a serial to USB adapter,but it doesn't recogonize the GPS when hooked up to my computer??? Software??

....................pateardropper

Bill,

Call me, maybe I can help you with that!!

[campadk]

Just a bit of a teaser, since Kate and I have just returned from 7 nights at FCP to get in some early season camping in 'the mothership'.

Highlights of our trip:

4 fox 'kits' entertained us for a few days... we thinks the mom relocated them however after learning about all the teardrops heading over soon...

Amazingly you could see the kits playing only about 75ft from the road around the ponds!





Campfires were enjoyed... sunshine, partial full moons, and margaritas were sampled...



Can't get enough of those FCP night shots...




Mothership morning view from the comforts of the bed...




This is the LAST pile of snow at FCP! Kate had to play in it as expected...




Real campers do it with a blue tote! LOL



Kate will be taking cookie orders at the TearUp



Bar tests were a success...



Kate is now famous! (Check out her YooHoo photo at the registration booth)...



Only 29 days to go!

Good news too.. I see that Norm Roy has re-appeared and will be joining us along with Jean and their daughter (and friend)! Glad to have em back!!

[Kurt (Indiana)]

This is the LAST pile of snow at FCP! Kate had to play in it as expected...

Probably not going to need the A/C much, huh?

Boy, that looks nice in the spring.

Our Gathering (Turkey Run) is this weekend and it should be a good one. Weather is expected to be clear, sunny and in the 70's. Wah Hoo!!

[Finntec]

Dave,
As usual you have great pictures. Thanks for sharing. See you in a few weeks.
Ray

[campadk]

Just an update. Was hoping to have some Euros made for this year... not sure if thats going to happen.

For those who are coming to the TearUp for the first time, we do have 9 flags left (glad we made them generic without a date!).

Here are samples...

Prototype...



Real Flag...



Cost is $20. Let me know if you wish to have one reserved for you by sending me an email to [email protected], or check in with us at the TearUp.

24 days to go!

Cheers!

[anonymous2]

Hi all,

A few of you expressed interest in a canoe trip. I am bringing a solo{Kurt was interested in a fishing boat},and a tandem. I have 5 PFD's{life vests} available. If you want to canoe there is a local livery,and a canoe truck that makes rounds in the park.See links on earlier post by Dave.

Several people have asked me how to dress. If cooler wear a fleece jacket,or rain wear with fleece,or wool underneath. Any Quick drying material for pants,or shorts. Cotton is a no no,as it will never dry if wet. Silk or polyproplene long underwear if needed . A good hat for sun or rain. Water proof sandals or water shoes for your feet{you will be stepping in water to get into the canoe,and some water will be in the boat when paddling} If it is hot,then that's what you are comfortable in.PFD's will still be worn,as some can't swim,and for your personal safety. String bikinis are out because of boater safety issues{don't need a power boater crashing into, us getting a better look} LOL. Sunblock,sunglasses,and a hat will help. Plenty of drinks if hot,and light foods. If raining I doubt there will be interest. Beginners will have enough to deal with beside bailing a canoe. However if still interested good rainwear will be needed.

Beginners we will keep the trips to 5-6 miles. That is about 2-4 hours,depending on cruising speed. We will take rest stops as needed. Bring plenty of water or drinks,possibly toilet paper,cameras, binocular,and small cooler if you desire. Ziplock bags are great for keeping things dry,like cameras,and binoculars. Something to tie all your things to the canoe,a large plastic shopping bag tied to a rail of the canoe with your things inside. In case of a capsize{God forbid} it will keep things in your boat,air in ziplocs will float instead of sink.

Any farther questions feel free to PM me.

A side note :Joan experienced chest pains several times recently. Her doctor is sending her to a specialist ,and is getting testing done next week. At this point we are not sure if we will be coming if they find a major problem. I will keep you all posted. If we do come she may not be allowed to paddle,so I will need a bow paddler{not hard as I do the steering & brakes} if anyone is interested going on the trip.

pateardropper Bill & Joan

[Dennis T]

Our thoughts are with you Joan. Take care and listen to the Doctor. You health is more important to us than your visit.
Keep it posted,Bill
Dennis & Darla T

[anonymous2]

Thanks Dennis & Darla,

The doctor thinks it is Lyme disease related,and that is why no rush trip to the ER. Since Joan was infected it has changed her life. She is also facing knee replacement because of accelerated arthritis,again from the Lymes. Her infection was in the advanced stage before detection,so it harder to treat the long term results. It has an effect on muscle nerves,and the heart being a muscle will also be affected. Tests will show if that is true. Good part is she just had a physcial,and her cholesterol ,and triglycerides, just perfect, no real warning signs of heart problems that way. For now no exertion,rest if tired,until tests are done. Keeping fingers crossed.

pateardropper

[Kurt (Indiana)]

Hope everything works out for you.

I have a Kayak question. I'm new to Kayak and have only rented one that I sat "ON" rather that "IN". I liked it but I'm curious about the rentals at FCP. I want my wife to try it but I don't think the "sit in" version will work very well.
Is there a name for the "sit on" Kayak? The one I rented had recesses for the seat and the foot area. It was stabile and it felt good to me. What's available at FCP?

I'm getting ready this weekend since next weekend (should say June 9)is my son's wedding day in Pittsburgh. Then it's off to FCP to arrive Monday June 11.

I'm anxious to get there.

[anonymous2]

Hey Kurt,

Yes the ones you sit on top are nicknamed SOT's,and sit ins are called SINKS. SOT's are usually very wide,stable, slow,{harder to paddle because of width},but usually surf well. SINKS are usually easier{unless very wide also}. Think long & narrow for speed,wide & short for stable,and that applies to both canoes & kayaks. Earlier I mentioned about my solo canoe,and you stated you may want to use it to fish from. Do you still want to use it? If not, that would save me some gas money{drag created by 2 canoes on car top},and I will only bring the tandem. The solo I have is a little tender{tippy} but not to the extreme. If you catch a 25lb fish you will have a little problem bringing it on board.Not stable enough to stand in to fish. I am guessing the rental canoes/kayaks will be of the stable variety,unless you request a narrow one.


pateardropper

[Kurt (Indiana)]

Hey Kurt,

Earlier I mentioned about my solo canoe,and you stated you may want to use it to fish from. Do you still want to use it? If not, that would save me some gas money{drag created by 2 canoes on car top},and I will only bring the tandem.
pateardropper

I can fish from the lake shore and still enjoy the SOT or other kayak. No need to bring the extra canoe just for me. I'm not in to fishing to the point that I need a special canoe.

The main reason I hope the SOTs are available is for me and for my wife to use.
Like I said, this is new for me but so far the Kayak experience has been fun. I'd much rather use two single (stable) kayaks for me and for my wife, rather than try to canoe with two people. I think the dryness will be more fun.

Looking at the recent picture, the water is probably pretty cool anyway.

[anonymous2]

Hi Kurt,

SOT's can be fun in warm water,but in cold/cool water they can be a pain in the @*$. Some models have scupper{drains} holes in the feet & seat area,and when you sit on the kayak the water rises up the holes,and you sit in water all the time.Cold water in a sensitive area causes a ice cream butt ache{like a ice cream head ache},unless you are wearing waterproof insulated clothing. They are stable only because they are so wide to make up for the high center of gravity {how high you sit up off the water}. Canoes are wide because of this too. Sinks are usually narrower because you are in most cases sitting below the water,and they are faster and easier to paddle because of this. Sinks have a deck in front of you to work on releasing a fish. Something you may want to think about is a tandem kayak. Usually heavier,stable as rock,and fairly easy to paddle because of 2 horsepower. There are models with individual cockpits,and open cockpits like a canoe. The open top models are great for fishing because you can use the floor as a work surface. However tandem canoes,and kayaks have a nickname"divorce" boats. If you never paddled one you will soon find out why. Both people have to be insync to make them work properly,otherwise you are all over the lake screaming & yelling {it can be fun to watch} Most liveries carry a couple of almost every type of boat to rent,getting one of your choice may be the problem if they are busy.

pateardropper

[Stu]

Hi Kurt,

Thought I'd jump in here with another point about the "divorce" boats. Rocky and I have done a fair amount of canoeing and do quite well in a tandem canoe. Last September we rented a tandem SINK just to try a kayak. While we had no problem handling the boat, there was a fair amount of getting splashed from each others paddle while we got the feel of paddling from a much lower position.


pateardropper,

Thanks for the great info. We were just looking at SOTs that are on sale at Gander Mountain yesterday. You confirmed my suspicion that your sitting in water all the time. Since most of our use will be in relatively cold water here in Michigan, I think we'll stick with SINKs.

Stu

[Kurt (Indiana)]

You confirmed my suspicion that your sitting in water all the time. .

Stu

I'm so new at this that I haven't had an SOT that was full of water (yet). The one I used at Turkey Run was dry until I had to get out to pull it thought the shallows. I ended up splashing water into the foot wells but the seat was mostly dry.

Maybe my scupper was plugged.

Here is some info I pulled up regarding SOT's.
http://www.kayakfishingstuff.com/articl ... rticles=51

"They’re used for touring, general recreation and whitewater. SOTs are the new breeds. They’re essentially glorified surfboards. Rather then sitting in the kayak, as one does in a SIK, you sit on the kayak. The kayak is a hollow tube that has posts that run from the top of the kayak to the water. These posts are called scupper holes. They are what make a SOT kayak what it is because they allow water that enters the kayak to drain. There isn’t any need for sponges or pumps as the kayak is self-bailing. SOTs were created as recreational kayaks that were originally used at warm water resorts as play vessels. They’re popularity has been increasing each year and besides resort use they’re also used for general recreation, kayak surfing and fishing."

Looks like I might have to have one of these if I can justify it.