Lil Diner stuff

[Laredo]

hey, did mike take the sticky off this topic??

[Steve Frederick]

Here's some pic's of the major appliance wall!!
Upper left opening is for the A/C unit, Right is the furnace.
Lower left is a storage area, right is a propane locker. It will get sealed, with a vent in the floor, and outside wall.

[mikeschn]

hey, did mike take the sticky off this topic??

I didn't think it was sticky, but now that you mention it, what a great idea!!!

I'm just drooling today over the applicance wall. I can see the a/c and the furnace in there already... Need some help seeing it? Here ya go...




Are you wondering how we get the furnace in there? Maybe this picture will help... if you look closely you can see some cleats in there. That what we secure the front panel to!



Comments? Questions? Suggestions?

Mike...

[Guest]

The propane bottle right behind the rear bulkhead sure suprised me.
I've been moving, sliding, adjusting, deleting the layout on Copperwood and by just a fluke, I ended up with a space behind my bulkhead and thought...Hmmm, but you've already beat me to the punch.

Do your benches set on risers, or do they set right down on the floor?
I've been tossing that one around, back and fourth.
I like the simplicity of the setting on the floor with a deeper footwell, but I'm concerned about ground clearances and I loose the storage area underneath them.

I'm also sliding the profile up and down in relationship to how high it sets off the ground. Having never used a torsion axle before, it looks like I'm going to have to make a relief area on the bottom edge of my profile for clearance of the swing arm of the axle, when I have the profile lowered.

[Steve Frederick]

Nice rendering, Mike! I was just trying to explain how it would look to my son, an aspiring auto designer...He thinks it's cool!
He's really interested in CAD and 3-d rendering...Where's a good school?

[mikeschn]

The propane bottle right behind the rear bulkhead sure suprised me.
I've been moving, sliding, adjusting, deleting the layout on Copperwood and by just a fluke, I ended up with a space behind my bulkhead and thought...Hmmm, but you've already beat me to the punch.

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to! But if you are concerned about tongue weight, it helps to have the propane behind the axle!!!

Do your benches set on risers, or do they set right down on the floor?
I've been tossing that one around, back and fourth.
I like the simplicity of the setting on the floor with a deeper footwell, but I'm concerned about ground clearances and I loose the storage area underneath them.

I have my benches sitting about 6" above the main floor. The dropped floorwell is also about 6". I've found that 13" is very comfortable, plus or minus an inch. I've also decided that putting that entire 13" in the footwell is not comfortable.

I'm also sliding the profile up and down in relationship to how high it sets off the ground. Having never used a torsion axle before, it looks like I'm going to have to make a relief area on the bottom edge of my profile for clearance of the swing arm of the axle, when I have the profile lowered.

Nope, now you are over engineering. Show me where you think you are going to hit. I'll eyeball it for you. But the torsion arm is tucked inside the wheel, and I don't think you are going to hit anything.

Mike...

[Guest]

I'll send you an image.

[mikeschn]

Nice rendering, Mike! I was just trying to explain how it would look to my son, an aspiring auto designer...He thinks it's cool!
He's really interested in CAD and 3-d rendering...Where's a good school?

I don't know? I went to school before CAD was invented. Back then the big thing was calculators...

You might want to research design schools. There's degrees like automotive body design, or mechanical design. It used to be that all you needed to get into automotive is an associate degree, but that has changed. Now you need a bachlors. Don't ask me why though. In my mind, all you need to be an engineer at GM is a degree in Lotus Notes!!! With a minor in telephone usage!!! Oh, it helps to know how to use a photo copy machine, and to organize all those copies you make.

Mike...

[Guy]

Dear Mike,

Is there room to mount the furnace underneat the dinette. That would be more efficient for heating purposes since heat rises.

What type offurnace is it?

[mikeschn]

I'm using the Atwood Everest Star...
http://www.ducktec.com/evereststar.htm

Yes the furnace itself would fit under the seats, but then I would have to duct it above the mattress, since the mattress completely shuts off the floor area. That's an idea to play with in the future some time.

I put the furnace up there in the shelf to keep it simple. It works well, and keeps it plenty warm. The forced air gets the heat down where it's needed also! Of course if I was doing winter camping in there, I might have to add a ceiling fan!!!

Mike...

[Steve Frederick]

I got the forward cabinet/bulkhead glued up today. I used a combination of, biscuits, and screws to assemble it. Biscuits where I had room, screws in other places. The frame is maple, the upper cabinet doors are sliders, made from 1/4 ply left from the exterior skinning.

[Steve Frederick]

Here's your trailer Mike...
I'm just about ready for the assembly weekend!

I got the forward cabinet-wall done,

and built up the headliner. I glued up two sections of ply so that it can be installed as one unit.

[Steve Frederick]

Hey Mike! Some of your "luggage" arrived today. The furnace and t-stat.
Where did you order them from, they were shipped from Johnstown, N.Y., five miles from the house!
I'm thinking we might get to some wiring this weekend, bring your drawings!! See you and Frank on Friday??

[mikeschn]

I will be arriving in Amsterdam late Friday... Hopefully early enough to swing by the house and see all those pretty parts you have stacked up on the bench!!!

Mike...

[Steve Frederick]

We're open all night!!!