It's time for a new Generic Standy Design...

[mikeschn]

That's an option if the split floor doesn't work out.

I haven't had any time to do any CAD modeling since I am re-finishing the Escape Hatch for a camping trip this weekend.

Mike...

Do you really need a dropped floor??? why not just make it taller ...??? gonna' have to splice plywood anyway...

[steve wolverton]

Do you really need a dropped floor??? why not just make it taller ...???

Less windage and lower CG.

[GPW]

It sure seems like an awful lot of trouble to make for such little space...and just something for my klutzy wife to trip over in the dark...
Would an extra 6" in height really make that much difference?... superior aerodynamics and proper weight distribution would seem a better alternative...Being an aircraft designer,those principles would also apply to TTT's and TD's. ... and besides as Mike said , it won't work on all trailers...

[mikeschn]

I am also trying to get it to fit into a 7' garage. In that case, 6" really does make a difference.

Mike...

[mikeschn]

Okay guys, I need your thoughts again.

I did a basic split floor/split level chassis and I'm not really fond of the amount of cutting and substituting that is required to make this work.

here's a pic


So here is the question of the day...

Should "choice A" become a Generic Slouchy rather than a Generic Standy?

I noticed that I could easily slouch in my Baja Benroy which had an inside height of 56". I'm 66" tall.

So I could design a Generic Slouchy to have an inside height of 59", get rid of the dropped floor, and still fit into a 7' garage.

Your thoughts...

Mike...

[Tear Les]

So here is the question of the day...

Should "choice A" become a Generic Slouchy rather than a Generic Standy?

I noticed that I could easily slouch in my Baja Benroy which had an inside height of 56". I'm 66" tall.

So I could design a Generic Slouchy to have an inside height of 59", get rid of the dropped floor, and still fit into a 7' garage.

Your thoughts...

Mike...

Mike,

That's where I'm going with mine. In my case the garage height isn't the problem but I've got to shed some weight and I think with smaller tow vehicles the lower profile will be of benefit (resistance-wise and aesthetically).

I think this might be the crossroads for the duplicity of desgin however; likely those folks looking for a bug-out trailer in which they have to spend much time are more in need of comfortable standing height than a more typical recreational user.

It's fun to try however and it spins off lots of good ideas.

[madjack]

Okay guys, I need your thoughts again.

I did a basic split floor/split level chassis and I'm not really fond of the amount of cutting and substituting that is required to make this work.

here's a pic


So here is the question of the day...

Should "choice A" become a Generic Slouchy rather than a Generic Standy?

I noticed that I could easily slouch in my Baja Benroy which had an inside height of 56". I'm 66" tall.

So I could design a Generic Slouchy to have an inside height of 59", get rid of the dropped floor, and still fit into a 7' garage.

Your thoughts...

Mike...

Mike...there is way too much sugar for your dime in that frame plan........

[del]

Mike one thing that would lower the over height is to use shorter tires. I have seen plenty of trailers with 8" tires, but 12" tires would lower the trailer, farther than big 14" tires.

del

[karch67]

Here is a link to the iCamp which has a simlar floor plan, although it is reversed: http://www.urvusa.com/elite_floorplan.html

[mikeschn]

The iCamp is nice. I would have to add 2 feet to add the galley!

Mike...

[steve wolverton]

Ok, I think using a custom trailer like that would lose about 99% of the potential homebuilders out there. It's very cool, but this isn't something most people are going to want to try.

The reason the 4x8 Cubby was so popular is because it's built on an inexpensive bolt together frame that anyone can use.

I'm liking the lines and layout, but not that trailer.

[GPW]

Steve, it seems like building a trailer in the first place would deter MOST folks...This is a pretty specialized crowd and exploring the potential of these TTT's and TD's allows one to fit the trailer to their specific and varied needs...Really NICE to have alternatives and the valuable information exchange...You guys are the BEST !!!

[Elumia]

I have an idea for a dropped floor in a bolt together trailer. it would be best utilized with a rear door so that there is a single floor level.

[angib]

I have an idea for a dropped floor in a bolt together trailer.

I'm not sure what your second diagram is showing, as I can't understand the details, but here are a couple of comments:

You will be limited on the drop to maybe a few inches, as you have to have clearance for the axle under the dropped floor - dropping just the front floor allows you to get much lower. Alternatively, you could have a hump in the dropped floor where the axle was - it would look odd, but I could see it working OK.

I think, probably, you can safely leave out all the cross-members except for the front, the rear and the one-from-front, as you've shown. But you would then have to be very sure you added back sufficient support from the floor to stop the side rails either twisting or splaying at the spring mounts - bolting the side rails to the plywood floor would probably be enough.

Please note the use of 'probably'!

Andrew

[GPW]

Making dropped floors seems like making drawers for a cabinet ... PIA, high stress/wear,much harder than the rest of the build...often unappreciated..
Sorry Mike , don't recall you mentioning the garage thing as a parameter... just going with the "Standy" thing..Being sorta' tall, standy takes on a whole new set of problems ... I kinda liked the 79" measurement , until I realized that was from the ground...

Make a bigger garage ...