I Really Liked What Vick Had To Say...

[jeepr]

It's not in my nature either to ever hurt ANY animal, but maybe that's just not in HIS nature and upbringing.

But does that make you a criminal?

According to the law, yes. He is a criminal.

[Roly Nelson]

I agree, the only thing he is sorry of, is that he is sorry he got caught. I hope he fingers a bunch of the other bigger boys, so the cops can nab them as well. Then when Vick goes to prison, the big boys will have their in-prison buddies seek revenge on Vick for squeeling on them. He better be very respectful to "Bubba" in the big house, because he might just get what he's got coming to him, in the end!

Now if Vick was smart, he would take some of his millions and set up an army of dog-rescuers, raiding the dog-fight rings and puppy mills, from now and until the day he is sentenced. That way, he could hope to shine a better light on himself. He might even regain some respect from a few dog lovers, but not this one.

I predict, professional football teams will be falling all over themselves to get him to play on their teams, no matter what the public thinks, after he gets out of the penn. Personally, since my little 5 lb Maltese sleeps on my pillow every night, I can't even fathom anyone being so cruel to those helpless creatures. Vick has been doing this for a long time, and it's too bad they don't hang and drown the quarterback, when his pass is intercepted by the other team. Using his reasoning, "Don't losers deserve to be tortured and killed"?

Roly.........enough said, rot in your cell, Vick! Perhaps a bit harsh, but an eye for an eye.........

[caseydog]

I really hope MV does come out the other side of this a better person. Really. I get no pleasure from seeing people have their whole lives ruined when they mess up.

But, if he's looking for a shortcut to the "redemption" process, it ain't going to happen.

Right now, he probably is only sorry because he got caught. I'm not ready to write off his whole future though, at this early stage.

CD

[emiller]

Seamed to me Vick was trying to remember what the lawyer told him to say. Now that he's losing millions he has to say something. 6 years of dog fighting isn't a mistake, he liked what it was all about. If he was truly sorry he would have not lied.

[sledge]

I think he should be treated like a man, with honor ............ LOL , yeah right..... Hang Him.... shoot him.... a lot of things in this world I could not care less about . But I LOVE my pets. ..... he should get the same thing he did to the Dogs. SHOOT the Bast%#rd

[cccamper]

ah c'mon.. let the poor guy alone. see, all you have to do is give him one afternoon to fight the dogs himself. one on one. let him fight one for each one he tortured and killed.

then sell tickets. no, give them away free. that could be like a "fine".. to not get paid for performing for the public..

yeah.. that's the ticket...

e

[Ira]

To me, a human has more value than an animal. Always will, and nothing anyone says will change my opinion on this. No--I could never hunt or hurt an animal. But that's just ME.

Cock fighting, dog fighting, although irreprehensible to many, is part of MANY cultures. And although against the law, I don't see the outrage expressed against OTHER crimes committed in this country against PEOPLE.

Why is it okay to slaughter a deer with an AK47? Because it's a deer, and not a dog. They're both animals, and we happen to like one animal more than the other. Of course, hunters are given a pass.

For Christ's sake--even Hitler loved dogs. Where are our priorities here?

An animal's life has more value than a person's?

I don't buy it, but I understand why this has happened in this case:

It's a famous BLACK person. If he was white and hunting, no problem.

[Bobgorilla]

To me, a human has more value than an animal. Always will, and nothing anyone says will change my opinion on this. No--I could never hunt or hurt an animal. But that's just ME.

Cock fighting, dog fighting, although irreprehensible to many, is part of MANY cultures. And although against the law, I don't see the outrage expressed against OTHER crimes committed in this country against PEOPLE.

Why is it okay to slaughter a deer with an AK47? Because it's a deer, and not a dog. They're both animals, and we happen to like one animal more than the other. Of course, hunters are given a pass.

For Christ's sake--even Hitler loved dogs. Where are our priorities here?

An animal's life has more value than a person's?

I don't buy it, but I understand why this has happened in this case:

It's a famous BLACK person. If he was white and hunting, no problem.

Ira, odviously you don't know anything about hunting, nobody in this country hunts domesticated dogs and Yes some cultures allow cock fighting and dog fighting, but ITS AGAINST THE LAW HERE, if you want to do things go where they are legal, Drugs are legal in some countries, child porn is legal in some countries, polygamy is legal in some countries, apparently genocide is legal in some countries, BUT NOT HERE

[Ira]

Ira, odviously you don't know anything about hunting, nobody in this country hunts domesticated dogs and Yes some cultures allow cock fighting and dog fighting, but ITS AGAINST THE LAW HERE, if you want to do things go where they are legal, Drugs are legal in some countries, child porn is legal in some countries, polygamy is legal in some countries, apparently genocide is legal in some countries, BUT NOT HERE

Again...I'll say the same thing in a different way:

Cocaine is illegal, yet crack, same stuff, carries a much stiffer penalty because it's a BLACK drug.

I can GUARANTEE you that if Dan Marino or another "okay" white quarterback committed the same infraction, a lot of people here would be a lot more forgiving.

For God's sake:

I don't see anyone here crying in uproar over all of the white priests that have molested young boys! Yet you're all willing to hang this guy over dogs.

The hypocrisy is pretty bad to me.

Just my opinion, you know?

[Podunkfla]

To me, a human has more value than an animal. Always will, and nothing anyone says will change my opinion on this. No--I could never hunt or hurt an animal. But that's just ME.

Cock fighting, dog fighting, although irreprehensible to many, is part of MANY cultures. And although against the law, I don't see the outrage expressed against OTHER crimes committed in this country against PEOPLE.

Why is it okay to slaughter a deer with an AK47? Because it's a deer, and not a dog. They're both animals, and we happen to like one animal more than the other. Of course, hunters are given a pass.

For Christ's sake--even Hitler loved dogs. Where are our priorities here?

An animal's life has more value than a person's?

I don't buy it, but I understand why this has happened in this case:

It's a famous BLACK person. If he was white and hunting, no problem.

Ira... I think there is a decided difference between hunting deer and fighting dogs. Hunting is a traditional sport here from the days when folks had to just to put meat on the table. Today it is necessary because we have killed off all the deer's natural predators and we would be over run with them if we didn't allow hunting. (By the way, I am not a hunter.) Training dogs to be vicious killers and fighting them for sport and amusement is a totally different barbaric practice... Plus, it is against the law... to say nothing about it being inhumane and evil. Of course, this kind of attitude and predatory mindset may explain be why some elements of our society essentially hunt and kill each other on the street every day too?

As for his being black? I think if they find a white guy raising and training over 50 dogs and running a business fighting them they would bust him just as quick and punish him just as severly. This guy just happened to be a sports star and role model for many young people... He did it to himself. He's not the first rich and famious person to think he didn't have to play by the same rules as the rest of us.

[caseydog]

Ira, odviously you don't know anything about hunting, nobody in this country hunts domesticated dogs and Yes some cultures allow cock fighting and dog fighting, but ITS AGAINST THE LAW HERE, if you want to do things go where they are legal, Drugs are legal in some countries, child porn is legal in some countries, polygamy is legal in some countries, apparently genocide is legal in some countries, BUT NOT HERE

Um, there are several ranches here in Texas that raise "wild game" for hunters to kill. Veep Cheney was at one of those ranches when he shot his friend in the face. The quail Dick was trying to shoot were released from cages neer the "hunters" to be shot. That's basically shooting farm animals, IMO.

And, everthing I ever hunted ended up in a gumbo. I LOVE duck gumbo. Going out to shoot a deer so I can stick his head on a wall just ain't the same. I'm not dissin' people who go hunting, I'm just saying that one man's "sport" is another man's "cruelty." I have nothing againts hunters, but then again, I don't feel a desire to go hunting, either -- unless I get my hands on Mrs. Taylor's gumbo recipe.

Dog fighting and cock fighting are pretty universally considered cruel. The jury is divided on hunting -- especially now that hunting really isn't a necesity for survival, like it once was.

CD

[cccamper]

we certainly need deer hunting here in missouri. can't believe how many people hit or get hit by deer driving down the highway. expense in insurance is terrible not to mention the injuries and some fatalities.

relatives in south dakota have problems with deer eating crops.

because there are no predators (as pointed out above) the deer population is very high. hopefully this dry hot summer will help cut it down a little.

i would rather people hunt than the state or someone paying for mass slaughters.

everyone i know who hunts eats the venison. also venison is donated to food programs for those in need. around here the deer sausage is *very* good!

btw.. to save money on all the hunting gear ron white can just get them with his car going 50 mph. how green is that

e

[asianflava]

Um, there are several ranches here in Texas that raise "wild game" for hunters to kill.

Yup, Lions, Tigers, and Bears oh MY! Whatever you want to shoot.

They are called "Canned Hunts"

[Ira]

we certainly need deer hunting here in missouri. can't believe how many people hit or get hit by deer driving down the highway. expense in insurance is terrible not to mention the injuries and some fatalities.

relatives in south dakota have problems with deer eating crops.

because there are no predators (as pointed out above) the deer population is very high. hopefully this dry hot summer will help cut it down a little.

i would rather people hunt than the state or someone paying for mass slaughters.

everyone i know who hunts eats the venison. also venison is donated to food programs for those in need. around here the deer sausage is *very* good!

btw.. to save money on all the hunting gear ron white can just get them with his car going 50 mph. how green is that

e

I think you're agreeing with me, right?

That human lives are inrtrinsically more valuable than animals'?

And Brick--him being black has everything to do with it.

Like I said, if it was Dan Marino doing this, a lot of Floridians would have a whole different opinion.

Denying racism doesn't make it go away:

The entire white community is outraged over OJ's acquittal, but not about Robert Blake's.

It's hard to do at tmes, but we have to all really look at these realities for what they truly are, without the BS and racism, and look into our very flawed souls.

[cccamper]

we certainly need deer hunting here in missouri. can't believe how many people hit or get hit by deer driving down the highway. expense in insurance is terrible not to mention the injuries and some fatalities.

relatives in south dakota have problems with deer eating crops.

because there are no predators (as pointed out above) the deer population is very high. hopefully this dry hot summer will help cut it down a little.

i would rather people hunt than the state or someone paying for mass slaughters.

everyone i know who hunts eats the venison. also venison is donated to food programs for those in need. around here the deer sausage is *very* good!

btw.. to save money on all the hunting gear ron white can just get them with his car going 50 mph. how green is that

e

I think you're agreeing with me, right?

That human lives are inrtrinsically more valuable than animals'?

And Brick--him being black has everything to do with it.

Like I said, if it was Dan Marino doing this, a lot of Floridians would have a whole different opinion.

Denying racism doesn't make it go away:

The entire white community is outraged over OJ's acquittal, but not about Robert Blake's.

It's hard to do at tmes, but we have to all really look at these realities for what they truly are, without the BS and racism, and look into our very flawed souls.

i think human life is paramont. in my faith we believe that animals are put here along with us and we may use them. just not abuse them. but if we don't want to "hurt" anything we've got nothing to eat. i love cattle, to me they are beautiful . deer are beautiful, fish are beautiful. well some. after my ex father-in-law caught a carp i had *nightmares* about that %*&$ thing.

to me what dean said is ok. that is his grasp and belief. we all have our beliefs and they are part of us. if we want to change someone else's belief i think it really helps to first respect their "right" to hold it and understand that it is part of who they are. then thoughtfully, not emotionally, simply relate to them what we believe and why. it's a very big deal to want to change a part of who someone is.

personally i have no knowledge of how others react/care about who does what. seems to me that it is in large part what the media plays up. i know for a fact that they even make things up. ( experience )

news stories may be fueled by whatever public driven interest dictates, (what the heck is it with brittany spears?????? ) but what is written/spoken about the topic is at the mercy of someone's subjective opinion.

maybe in private vick is crying and asking himself why he never saw this other perspective on what he was doing and allowed to be done. maybe he is happy with script writers and laughing at all of us. i don't know. dean's gut tells him the former.

who knows what is in the mind of the inmate walking the "green mile".

elizabeth

caveat.. all opinions stated here are my own and not necessarily that of the management.

ps.. please don't anyone beat me up, am trying hard!