Love Affair Gone Sour ? - Hornets Yes - Missiles No

[Classic Finn]

Read this ... This was on Tv Before..

http://www.hs.fi/english/article/US+ref ... 5224850681

US Sells Finland Hornets but no weapons to go with it..Thats like being able to buy a gun but cant buy bullets.

How Stupid.. Now tell me that aint Bush ... And the present Administration:?

And Finland has been honored and praised many times by the USA as a Good Friend and Ally..Even when Bush visited Finland. And By Previous US Presidents and Officials.

Someone is filling us with propaganda on this issue.

Bull Droppings. Straightout.

Sure makes me wonder...What happened with Mr. Bush and Our President Mrs Halonen. ? Maybe its all due to jealousy from Bush because Conan O Brian visited her?

Classic Finn

[Bobgorilla]

I can't remember which weapons system it is but (we) recently refused to sell it to the British and we depend on them to buy most of our weapons just to help with the cost. BTW the missile (we) won't sell is just a fancy air to ground missile, I'm sure the russians or the swedes probably have something comparable And the plane will carry a wide range of missiles probably more than 10 different types.

[Kevin A]

I don't know if I should laugh or take offense to the first line in the story Heikki linked to.

"Officials in the Untied States have rejected a preliminary request by Finland to buy JASSM air-to-ground missiles for the US-made Hornet F-18 jet fighters used by the Finnish Air Force."

On the other hand, Untied States might not be so far from the truth, given the devisiveness of our government.

[Micro469]

Now, Why would little o'le Finland want air to ground missiles anyway?

Somebody doesn't like Heikki's Teardrop?????

[Loader]

Heikki,

Here's a link on the JASSM.

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/smart/jassm.htm

It is not unusual for allied nations (read: friends) to not get all the latest greatest weapons available for a specific aircraft. It may just not be allowed for now, however sometime in the future it may be approved.
Heck, that missile is very new, I'm not surprised the State Department has not allowed it's wide spread export. Like already mentioned, there are many other types of very capable missiles out there. I am certain your government is very well aware of some. The article mentions the SLAM-ER, here's some info on it:

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/smart/agm-84.htm

Thanks for sharing the news story.

[Ma3tt]

Wait does Finland have oil we can get?

[Bobgorilla]

Wait does Finland have oil we can get?

I hope not, then we'll invade

[rbeemer]

Wait does Finland have oil we can get?

I hope not, then we'll invade

If we invade, we should all join up so we can party with and/or at Hekki's

Last one in the Sauna(in December) has to jump in the lake first while everybody watches from the sauna

[Classic Finn]

Wait does Finland have oil we can get?

No but we have all the Reindeer to pull the sleighs and buggies once oil does run out..

Look at our (lil) ol neighbor to the East... Weve got plenty experience with them from before...then theyve got oil.. and lots of it.

OF Course we need the missiles so we can take our land back the Bassnerd Russians took from us..I need my ol fishing spot back from them..

Classic Finn

[asianflava]

Thanks for the links Earl I read thru them and after getting thru the military verbage, I was able to see what they were wanting to buy. It's basically an air launched cruise missile. With a range of 2400mi, Finland can launch against targets all over Europe without leaving home.

[Classic Finn]

Thanks for the links Earl I read thru them and after getting thru the military verbage, I was able to see what they were wanting to buy. It's basically an air launched cruise missile. With a range of 2400mi, Finland can launch against targets all over Europe without leaving home.

Finland has never been the agressive one.. never. Its been the neighbor to the East and The so called Economy Engine of Europe.

Who knows where it will be from next.

Throughout History The Finns have always fought a foreign military on their own. And managed .

Nothing has changed to that effect. Nato or no Nato.

Classic Finn

[Ira]

I thought it's always been that way--that we give countries certain systems, but in order to placate our enemies, we don't give them everything they need--so we can tell our enemies that it can't be used for offensive purposes against them.

In this case, I would think that we're kissing Russia's ass, as if Finland is going to attack THEM. There's nothing they would want there ANYWAY, except for oil. And if Finland attacked, I bet 75% of the Russian army would DEFECT.

Not getting paid for 6 months kinds of screws with the soldiers' morale, you know?

Russia is really effed up these days--they're feeling kind of paranoid, and for good reason.

[Ira]

And Heikki--tell us the parts you guys need, and we'll get them to you.

[Classic Finn]

And Heikki--tell us the parts you guys need, and we'll get them to you.

Its been said by Russian Officials many times over that the Finns are a Fearsome Tactical Force when under pressure... as also History teaches.. that same feeling is amongst the Finns today.. And it was given to us by our Grandparents..

And ask any Finn what they feel about the neighbor next door..that live within Finland and beyond our borders..Its not a positive reply for certain.


This wont change..for generations even if then..and I know for sure where my gun would be pointed if necessary...

As my grandparent said and the veterans of the few that are still living..
Russian is a Russian even though you cook them in butter.

Classic Finn

And as far as oil .. Russia has the open and close valves on the pipe lines to turn it off if Europe starts playing with them.. now what a weapon that is... Theyve closed the lines so many times before as a threat and it wont be the last ...

[Ira]

What makes Russia so dangerous--but at the same time makes them so ripe for real change--is that nothing is working there, and they DON'T have the people behind them.

Take Putin away, put a real forward-thinking leader in there, and things can start getting better for them.

THEN they become truly dangerous.

Right now, it seems like they just live with a huge inferiority complex, looking to pick fights based on it, and they can't totally abandon their old ideologies because that would be to admit that their system didn't work in the first place.

Even Vietnam has embraced capitalism, and while I would also mention China in this analogy, they're a TOTALLY different animal.

That government is just plain nuts.