Al Gore won the Nobel Peace Prize

[doug hodder]

I'd agree, actors should stay out of politics, most of the public is suckered in by who it is rather than what they stand for...and Arnold didn't pan out like everyone thought he would out here, but given the choices....he was the least objectionable. I wonder if everyone is still wound up on the fact that since he isn't a natural born American he can't run as president, now that he has some sort of track record. It would be refreshing to find a real "leader" type somewhere on the political horizon, someone that leads with ideas and action rather than polls and media hype. Doug

[Miriam C.]

I know, we could take all the actors/actresses who like politics and telling us what to think, put them in their own country with no weapons, and let them run it.

I wonder if they would elect Al Gore for president. Or maybe Hillary.

Wanta really burn a libby's bows. Mrs Chaney thinks Hillary should run for a vice president role. So I guess I ain't votin for her husband even for dog catcher. If you qualify for Vice President shouldn't you qualify for President? Does she respect her husbands role? The shame

There, now I have bashed both sides.

[martha24]

[Joseph]

I am always bothered when free speech is hampered by someone being offended by a differing opinion or set of "facts".
Fighting between members is grounds to pull a thread. Bashing a public figure may cause fighting but giving one's opinion should not cause fighting.

Amen Miriam! Been lots of disagreement on this forum, but very little fighting, I believe at least in part because deep down we really are all friends here. And if not, MadJack still holds the key to lock down a thread or delete it.

And if you can't stand disagreement, this is DEFINITELY the wrong forum for you - we can't even agree on simple things like teardrop width, length or tire size!

Joseph

[Ira]

Gore wins the Peace Price, and Bush is recorded saying, "Childrens can learn."
Gee, let's see? Who do I trust with actually having a BRAIN!?

It's obvious who is the more articulate. Hitler was very articulate. Would you trust him?

Gore is articulate with INTELLIGENCE, and the guy actual CARES. Bush has neither quality. Comparing Gore to Hitler? Come on, Joseph--you can do better than THAT!

It simply KILLS Republicans that by all measures, Clinton was the most succesful president in history.

Successful? What exactly did he DO?

Bad memory, Joseph. The most dynamic, growing economy in ages, people feeling GOOD about the future and their wallets, and no stupid wars. Remember any of this? Or are you still hung up on that blowjob?

Bush the worst. And Clinton's VP may have lost his bid for the head job, but is still briilliant.

Brilliant enough to recognize that each subsequent Florida recount was resulting in more and more votes for Bush. (I watched all night and Gore never had the lead ONCE and yet MSNBC continued to paint Florida blue. No media bias here.) But it simply KILLS Democrats that Bush beat Gore fair & square (See Laredo's post above). And that was without counting the absentee ballots of the military. So much for how Democrats support the troops. And he beat Kerry by a landslide, so as you said, Ira, GET OVER IT! (And this from a guy who is no longer a Republican.)

A couple of a hundred votes is a landslide? In a state where his BROTHER is Governor? And we're not supposed to "question" this narrow margin? When there's a county where a large percentage of Jews voted for BUCHANAN!? Give me a break. The whole election stank on all levels.

The majority of this country isn't falling for these BS Limbaugh-type attacks anymore.

Speaking of Rush, did you see how he's auctioning off the smear letter "Dingy Harry" Reid and forty other Democrats signed trying to get him fired? Up to over $46,000 now, proceeds to go to the Marine Corps-Law Enforcement Foundation. Now THAT's what I call supporting the troops!

Did someone mention Limbaugh? HAH!!!

BTW, back in January you wrote this about WalMart:

Prices will not go down one penny because of this, you will NOT be better served as a customer, and as I've said a million times before about this company, it is another example of illegal employment practices that the f*cking state and federal regulatory agencies simply decide to ignore.

Thank GOD the Democrats are in power now--because this sh** IS going to stop.

So how's that workin' out for ya?

Well, things are getting betterinthis area. It has to do:

Bush only has a year to go.

[Miriam C.]

Gives me a warm fuzzy feeling seeing your two back at it. All is right in the world again.

Oh and any moderator or administrator can pull a thread. We try not to let MJ have all the fun.

[caseydog]

I'm offended by the anti-Gore viewpoints/propoganda that are tolerated/catapulted here so I've linked to a news source above that defends his claims in An Inconvenient Truth.

Also this Gore bashing seems to violate Mike's rules:

mikeschn wrote:
Here's the rules of the forum... pretty simple actually...

Rule Number 1: No fighting...

That's it. You fight, we pull the thread, you keep fighting we pull you.

Very important... discussions about sex, politics and religion, and certain bad jokes can lead to fighting. We would suggest that you refrain from the afforementioned... as they will be carefully monitored, and pulled as they turn into fighting.

These rules are not restrictive... this forum is meant to be fun. With your help, it can be!

Thanks for helping.

Mike...

I am always bothered when free speech is hampered by someone being offended by a differing opinion or set of "facts".

Fighting between members is grounds to pull a thread. Bashing a public figure may cause fighting but giving one's opinion should not cause fighting.

My opinion about Gore's inconvenient truth is that like many other times he failed to take personal control over the content. He did not personally check the "facts", or the sources.

Funny how a British Judge can be called obscure if he doesn't agree with someone famous/infamous. Somehow what he says has no value even if it is true.

If you read the "real" scientific documents you will find that Gore and his cronies expect you to pay a tax on every animal that may or may not "fart."

An Inconvenient Truth. Gore is being used and either hasn't a clue or is part of it. He set himself up to be criticized by being a public figure and spokesman for a group. It isn't Gore bashing to disagree with him.

I'm not taking offense here, but do hope you don't think I am clueless, too, since I have come to the conclusion that the scientific argument that Global Warming is real, and the human activities are a major contributing factor is a sound argument.

I didn't come to that conclusion from watching a movie. I used to be a skeptic, but after much reading and thinking, I changed my opinion.

I don't think people are stupid or clueless if they don't agree with me. I just don't agree. I would urge people to keep investigating, but I personally don't want to waste any time trying to convert anyone.

So, I guess if I were so inclined, I could be offended by your calling Gore clueless, since I agree with him -- even though I know your comment was not aimed at me. I'm not so inclined, so I'm not offended.

The only sure bet is that Mother Nature will have the final say in this "debate," one way or the other.

I also urge people not to get locked into "black or white" thinking. That would dictate that Gore is either 100 percent right or 100 percent wrong.

And, even if Gore had 100 percent proof that he is 100 percent right, there would still be a relentless debate, just because he is Al Gore.

CD

[caseydog]

Gore is just trying to find a public cause or agenda that he can attach himself to.

Long ago he was trying to be the figure in the community that was touting global cooling as the doom of the world. He failed at that and was ridiculed.

He then said that he invented the Internet. He failed at that and was ridiculed.

He now is the figure against global warming the doom of the world. After time passes and it is shown that this is a natural part of the evolution of the world, He will again be ridiculed.

Um, he didn't claim to have invented the internet.

He was very influential as a legislator in bringing the internet to the mainstream. But, he will forever be remembered for one poorly-worded sentence he spoke that grew legs and ran. Here is a peer-reviewed web-page on the topic. http://www.firstmonday.org/issues/issue5_10/wiggins/

Another VP, Dan Quayle will forever be remembered for similar statements that got bent around in the media echo-chamber.

Two guys from opposite ends of the political spectrum who will never get respect from small but loud groups.

CD

[Joseph]

Gives me a warm fuzzy feeling seeing your two back at it. All is right in the world again.

Well then, here you go!

Gore is articulate with INTELLIGENCE, and the guy actual CARES. Bush has neither quality.

What Gore professes to care about is the environment, but talk is cheap. He and Tipper live in a 20 room, 8 bathroom mansion that consumes 20 times the national average of natural gas. One month of his energy consumption is more than an average family uses in a YEAR! Meanwhile, Bush’s ranch incorporates every green feature available at the time of its construction, including geothermal heat, rainwater collection and water recycling. So you tell me – who “cares” more about the environment?

Comparing Gore to Hitler? Come on, Joseph--you can do better than THAT!

No, that’s your crowd – comparing Bush to Hitler on a daily basis. Read it again. I wasn’t comparing Gore to Hitler, merely mentioning that both are/were articulate. But being a smooth talker does not make an individual trustworthy.

It simply KILLS Republicans that by all measures, Clinton was the most succesful president in history.
Successful? What exactly did he DO?
Bad memory, Joseph. The most dynamic, growing economy in ages,

And you say my memory is bad? That would be the current Bush economy, which he had to drag out of the Clinton recession and then help it recover from the economic damage of 9-11.

people feeling GOOD about the future and their wallets,

It was definitely a “feel good” Presidency, but with the biggest tax increase in history, the future and the state of our wallets was not part of it.

and no stupid wars.

All of which, including the attacks on 9-11, could have been prevented if Clinton had accepted Bin Laden from the Syrians.

Remember any of this?

Better than you do, apparently.

Or are you still hung up on that blowjob?

I’ve never been hung up about the blow job. OK, it pissed me off when he wagged his finger at me and lied about it, but it’s a given the man has no morals and no shame. If those are qualities you love in a leader, that’s your problem, not mine.

A couple of a hundred votes is a landslide? In a state where his BROTHER is Governor?

No wonder you remember the 90s so poorly – you simply don’t pay attention. I said he beat KERRY in a landslide - 3 MILLION votes. And exactly what influence did his brother have on the 2000 election? IIRC it was the Supreme Court that ordered the recounts stopped. And remember, the counties most contested – Broward, Miami-Dade and Palm Beach - were controlled by DEMOCRATS.

And we're not supposed to "question" this narrow margin?

Again, you’re not paying attention. It was questioned repeatedly and each subsequent count resulted in more votes for Bush, which is why Gore conceded – it was getting embarrassing.

When there's a county where a large percentage of Jews voted for BUCHANAN!? Give me a break. The whole election stank on all levels.

It especially stank the way the military were screwed out of their absentee votes. Yeah, Dems support the troops all right. NOT!

Did someone mention Limbaugh? HAH!!!

Yes – that letter that Reid and Co. made a fool of themselves with is now going for over TWO MILLION DOLLARS. Which Rush will match, making over FOUR MILLION DOLLARS for the Marine Corps-Law Enforcement Foundation. Like I said, THAT”S supporting the troops. He’s also requested that the signers of the letter match his donation – yeah, like that’ll happen…

Well, things are getting betterinthis area. It has to do:
Bush only has a year to go.

So you’re saying that Reid, Pelosi & Co. have made WalMart change their evil ways and your wife is now happy in her employment conditions? Good to hear, though I'm surprised I didn’t read about it in the NY Times…

Joseph

[elmo]

I have to agree with Miriam also!

[elmo]

[elmo]

I am not sure why I had a triple post of the same thing....I haven't even had coffee yet!

[Mike C.]

Joseph,

You are trying to argue logically with a liberal. Kinda fun, but a total waste of time. If the facts get in the way, they resort to rhetoric, hyperbole and total misdirection. And if that doesn't work, then they make up the facts to meet their needs. And if all else fails, they resort to name calling.

Good luck!

[Joseph]

You are trying to argue logically with a liberal. Kinda fun, but a total waste of time. If the facts get in the way, they resort to rhetoric, hyperbole and total misdirection. And if that doesn't work, then they make up the facts to meet their needs. And if all else fails, they resort to name calling.
Good luck!

Thanks Uncle M - couldn't have said it better. Now all we have to do is sit back and let them prove you right.

Joseph

[caseydog]

:D Joseph,

You are trying to argue logically with a liberal. Kinda fun, but a total waste of time. If the facts get in the way, they resort to rhetoric, hyperbole and total misdirection. And if that doesn't work, then they make up the facts to meet their needs. And if all else fails, they resort to name calling.

Good luck!

Um, there are other people here with "liberal" views. Some of us are very intelligent, and well educated -- and very logical.

So, I'll just throw out these web pages for the heck of it. They don't prove anything, but they are at least as valid as the stuff Joseph is tossing out there from the conservative blogoshpere.

http://chrisevans3d.com/files/iq.htm

http://www.ginandtacos.com/education.jpg

BTW, I didn't vote for Bill Clinton either time, but I gotta say that my own financial condition was much better during his presidency that under the current one. As a nation, we experienced 107 consecutive months of economic growth. The federal budget went from record deficits to record surpluses (that Bush pissed away). 22-million new jobs were created. And, IIRC, we also won the war that Clinton got us into.

I didn't vote for him, but he did a pretty good job.

CD