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A fence-jumping dog problem

Postby WarPony » Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:44 pm

Well, this bundle of love............. has taken to jumping the 4 foot fence in the backyard today. Luckily, a couple of guys wrenching on their car nabbed him and called me. I had no idea he was out!!!

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What do you dog people do to keep a dog from jumping out? I don't have money to build a high fence or electro-fry the one I have now, so those options are out........

He's a Beagle/Yellow Lab mix so he comes in at around 35-40 lbs. and can stretch his front legs out quite a ways (LCG participants can vouch). Once he gets his front legs over the fence, it's just a matter of pushing his a$$ the rest of the way over.

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Postby Bobgorilla » Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:56 pm

:o I know how to stop him from digging. :thinking: My only realtively cheap idea I have is some 16 penny nails in the top of your posts and some thin colorful wire strung tightly between them about 2 inches apart, it might confuse him or he might just ignore it.
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Postby Eunice » Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:18 pm

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Rocky went over until Kenny put two rows of chicken wire on top to stop him. Then Rosey started crawling up the fence and between the two rows.

What stopped them was the neigbors chickens had their fence raised and couldnt come into our front yard anymore.
Good luck it was a nighmare for several months coming home from work and both dogs were in the front yard.
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Postby kajamelu4 » Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:50 pm

This won't help. Totally different problem. Several years ago, we had a poodle that kept getting out of the pen whenever we would leave home. We could not fiqure out how he was doing it. We set up a video camera and drove down the road. He was out when we got back.

He was climbing out. Eight foot tall wire fencing. We had to cover the top of the pen with chicken wire. Crazy dog. :lol:


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Postby swissarmygirl » Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:00 pm

I'm usually pretty good at this dog stuff, but I don't think there's a training/behavior answer to this one. The beagle in him wants to roam, that's what they're bred to do. Can't train that sort of thing out of him.

He is really darn cute though!
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Re: A fence-jumping dog problem

Postby Podunkfla » Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:05 pm

WarPony wrote:Well, this bundle of love............. has taken to jumping the 4 foot fence in the backyard today. Luckily, a couple of guys wrenching on their car nabbed him and called me. I had no idea he was out!!!

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Jeff... That dog's got attitude! He just knows he's smarter than you... Lookit that sneer! :lol:

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Maybe he just needs a girlfriend to keep around the home front?
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Postby tonyj » Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:18 pm

I had a lab that would either climb over or dig under fences.
the only solution was to put him on a leash, which he and I both hated. Just to spite me he would still dig under the fence with the leash on and just lay on the side of the fence he wasn't supposed to be on. But it spared the neighbors' chickens.

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Postby elmo » Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:37 pm

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Just kidding by the way....now if it was a cat..... :thinking:
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Postby Gaelen » Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:38 pm

Jeff, there are really only a couple of things that will keep a dog in when he wants to be out--supervision and more secure fencing.

1) If you absolutely have to leave him outdoors in a pen, run or fenced yard, then put him in a covered run that he cannot jump or climb out of. Most people can't 'cover' their entire yard, but they can usually float what it costs to cover a simple 4 x 8 or 4 x 10 chain link pen. However, if you take the upstairs escape route away by covering the pen, and you've got a budding Houdini, you should make sure the covered pen is on concrete so he can't dig out.

2) Do not leave him outdoors alone unsupervised; that's only contributing to the behavior. When you're not out in the yard with him, keep him indoors or crated. When you're outdoors with him and he goes for the fence, you need to convince him that's not in his best interests. I know a lot of people like to leave dogs out in the yard, pen or fenced area, or give them indoor/outdoor access. However, if you've got an escape artist, that's dangerous. A dog's gotta earn freedom, and fence jumpers have a negative freedom balance. :roll:

3) You can electrify the fence, but it's a lot cheaper to invest in an electric collar for the dog. Then you can use the e-collar correction to teach him that approaching the fence is not acceptable. If you've never done this, you should really talk to a pro trainer who has...teaching a dog NOT to jump a fence is a lot like snake proofing. Mistakes (on the dog's part) will eventually be fatal, or seriously damaging. The correction to keep him in the yard and away from testing the fence will have to be pretty serious.

4) Neutering can help with wanderlust if that's part of the problem. It can also not have any impact at all. But it can't hurt and it's healthier for the dog in the long run.

I kept a very athletic group of gordon setters, english springers and a mixed breed in yards where at least one portion of fence was only three feet tall (city and town regs that front yard fencing could be no higher than 3 feet tall.) When we had snow buildup, sometimes only a couple of inches of fence would be shoing over the drifts--they could have walked over it. And when I am on the road with the crew, my ex-pens are only 36 inches tall. The male springer jumped 30 inches in competition, and the gordons could jump 36" from a stand. I invested a LOT of time teaching my gang that fences were not to be challenged and jumping on or over the fence was unacceptable. That training had NO impact on their jumping style in competition, where they have to handle 12-18 obstacles in a run. They just learned the difference between jumps, and fences...and fences are feet off!

But for awhile I had a rescue gordon girl, very small at 22", who was clearly interested in taking off and couldn't be trusted out in the yard without supervision. I bought covers for my expens years ago because my smallest springer girl (just barely 18" at the shoulder, the one who wasn't supposed to jump because of a leg injury) could find any hole or weakness in any fence, and what she couldn't jump she would climb over or knock down. She could also open gates, but that's another problem.

M. at 15" tall will occasionally attempt to 'climb' a fence, so she's never in an uncovered expen or left in an open fenced area unsupervised. Someday, but not just yet. It's always an eye-opener reminder to have to reteach acceptable fenced yard behavior after years of having dogs who respected boundaries...but often, respecting the boundaries DOES have to be taught.

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Re: A fence-jumping dog problem

Postby Unkl Ron » Mon Nov 05, 2007 3:40 am

WarPony wrote:He's a Beagle/Yellow Lab mix


Beagle/Yellow Lab mix....Hmmm.....Your dog will ALWAYS want to get out to "hunt/scout around" unless you get some professional help to adjust his priorities.

I'd consider getting him a play/partner (male preferred) - may keep his wanderlust in check. At 40#-50# each, you'll only have 100# of dogs to feed. I had two friends similar to yours once. I learned that if I took them out to a field (for serious exercise), they "bolt" to the next county. Solved my problem very simply. Rigged up a 6' lead with a clip on each end and attached a dog to each end, then turned them loose. Un-teathered they'd go off at about 85mph in different directions, but tethered to each other, they couldn't get the "singular" line of flight "co-operation factor" figured out, so they ended up playing/tugging each other and running around in circles for hours. Maximum speed at full flight went from 85mph to about 15 ft./minute. Never tried my solution in a fenced yard, since there was too much chance of getting hung up. But in my case neither of them were climbers - just runners....

You may try one of the electric (pet friendly) collars that react when he gets within a certain distance to the sensors near the fence - but I guess it would'nt be cheap. Oh, I know - Get a bowling ball and a harness (not a collar), drill a hole thru the Ball - Four (4) foot lead from Ball to dog harness - then see if he can clear the fence dragging along a 12# ball. After about 20 tries, he'd give up then you could probably forget the ball altogether. Hmmmm... [img][/img]
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Postby Ira » Mon Nov 05, 2007 6:08 am

Keep a female dog on YOUR side of the fence?

Wait a minute--that will only work for about 5 minutes.
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Postby Jiminsav » Mon Nov 05, 2007 7:49 am

a chicken wire extension on top of the fence wouldn't cost that much and it might be enough to keep his feet from reaching the top.
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Postby Bill Fernandez » Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:23 pm

You could stake him witha a long rope so he could reach the fence but not over :lol:
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Postby deputydogrick » Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:27 pm

they sell harness which limit the movement of his front paws, still can walk ok but can't really stretch out
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Postby Eunice » Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:46 pm

deputydogrick wrote:they sell harness which limit the movement of his front paws, still can walk ok but can't really stretch out


we have one of these for Rocky. it works fine. he cant jump up on the bed with it.
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