Tis the season....for fraud!

[Turtle49]

Well boys and girls, it was bound to happen to me sooner or later.

I just got a call from my credit card company. The suspected fraudulent (out of country) charges on my account. Over $200 in charges this morning.

Watch yourselves, these @^&#(#&#% jerks will be kicking it into high gear for the next month trying to take advantage of us.

Tim

[Classic Finn]

Now if this aint a kick in the Shorts.. Once again,

As an "Out OF Country Customer" this type of thing just pisses me off to the max. Thus once more creating problems for those of us that are honest and law abiding.

Id say hangem by the balls..if and when ever caught.

As a Business Owner, my wife is also aware of the fraud involved during this time of year and all times of the year.

If the moderators find this wording too straight forward please delete it however I cant help myself in reading this.

Classic Finn

[Ira]

Id say hangem by the balls..

Classic Finn

Man, Heikki sounds like a real Brooklynite here! Or redneck!

I don't know which, but I know I LOVE it!!!

[tonyj]

Heikki--the PC way to say that during this time of year, "I hope they hang 'em by their Ornaments!"

[Classic Finn]

Id say hangem by the balls..

Classic Finn

Man, Heikki sounds like a real Brooklynite here! Or redneck!

I don't know which, but I know I LOVE it!!!

I can be a calm and gentleman like acting in my personality however its always the Out Of Country Customers that get the negative. And its annoying and bad for those of us that are clean. Lets say that its not my nature to be aggressive however Im totally against what is going on. And this makes steam rise out of my shirt collar and pants legs.

So Redneck or Brooklynite .. this is true. Id be willing to hangem myself if I caught them.

This just ruins the reputation real bad even though this type of thing happens also by own countryman. Not only foreigners.

Ive mentioned this before and I say it again.

Also this is an other example as Ive called on several teardrops or old cars to the USA and get a response cold and straight forward or beatin behind the bushes that we really dont want to deal with you due to..
you being a foreigner.. Or Ive been told straight to my face.

So believe me I know what its like. And if anyone thinks it feels good ..
Well guess again.

Classic Finn

[Classic Finn]

Heikki--the PC way to say that during this time of year, "I hope they hang 'em by their Ornaments!"

Ahhh yes I tend to agree with you Tony.. If these people have any ornaments to hangem by.

Ok I,ll rephrase the wording .. Id be willing to hangem by their ornaments myself. In public. Wether Local or Foreign. It also occurs here.

Heikki

[Classic Finn]

Well boys and girls, it was bound to happen to me sooner or later.

I just got a call from my credit card company. The suspected fraudulent (out of country) charges on my account. Over $200 in charges this morning.

Watch yourselves, these @^&#(#&#% jerks will be kicking it into high gear for the next month trying to take advantage of us.

Tim

So Tim I certainly hope it isnt from Finland.

[Classic Finn]

Id say hangem by the balls..

Classic Finn

Man, Heikki sounds like a real Brooklynite here! Or redneck!

I don't know which, but I know I LOVE it!!!

Ok Ira Id skin the bass...if caught the same way we skin our reindeer in fall for harvest.

Now aint that Far North Redneck..Sooo tis the season to git pist off fa la la laaaaaaa.

[Classic Finn]

Well boys and girls, it was bound to happen to me sooner or later.

I just got a call from my credit card company. The suspected fraudulent (out of country) charges on my account. Over $200 in charges this morning.

Watch yourselves, these @^&#(#&#% jerks will be kicking it into high gear for the next month trying to take advantage of us.

Tim

Tim Id like to know how this is possible? They get your CC Card or such info from emails or ?? Fraudulent Website or? Or have hackers gotten into bank files?

Since electronic banking is very common here its been tried according to the news..

Classic Finn

[Turtle49]

Tim Id like to know how this is possible? They get your CC Card or such info from emails or ?? Fraudulent Website or? Or have hackers gotten into bank files?

Since electronic banking is very common here its been tried according to the news..

Classic Finn

I honestly don't know how they ended up with my card. I don't leave my card info on any sites and I haven't dealt with any new sites lately. My wife and I have used the card frequently in the last week, but only with local stores and with websites I have used in the past.

Let me be clear about this, this wasn't a problem with one of my customers, it was somebody using my personal credit card to make purchases outside the USA.

And your right they should be hung by their ornaments!

Tim

[Bobgorilla]

The one advantage to having really bad credit is no one tries to steal it from you (otherwise it sucks)

[Classic Finn]

Tim Id like to know how this is possible? They get your CC Card or such info from emails or ?? Fraudulent Website or? Or have hackers gotten into bank files?

Since electronic banking is very common here its been tried according to the news..

Classic Finn

I honestly don't know how they ended up with my card. I don't leave my card info on any sites and I haven't dealt with any new sites lately. My wife and I have used the card frequently in the last week, but only with local stores and with websites I have used in the past.

Let me be clear about this, this wasn't a problem with one of my customers, it was somebody using my personal credit card to make purchases outside the USA.

And your right they should be hung by their ornaments!

Tim

The little neighbor to the East of Us is noted for doing this here also. Sooooo many times they have been caught and again sooooo many times they havent.

As we say here in Finland A Russian is a Russian even though you cook him in butter. And 99 % of the time it is a neighbor to the East coming out of little Estonia that are the cause for the major crime events here..why via Estonia? No passport or visas needed from one Eu country to the other. But directly from Russia visas are needed.

So yes its certainly great to have borderlines opened by belonging to the EU..

And the EU is also part of Free movement within the region without visas or passports. And this pertains to Crime also. So thanks to the folks that voted for the Eu..

Time again we hear and read of the news where Credit card scams and other crime come out of this region.

Hate to say it but 150% True. And in my opinion this same has hit the shores of the USA as well.. and distance is no factor for Crime.

[Bad-Dawg]

Romania and Bulgaria are hotbeds of credit fraud too. My university supplied card(I work there) Got picked up in September of last year and $7000.00 worth of charges were made on the Amazon.eu website. Fortunately we have a good system of catching these and nothing was ever delivered. The purchases were all traced back to an IP address in Romania but nothing could be done past that...

The card was physically present in my desk so how they got the info had to be from a vendor... On that note, in the late '90s I was network Manager for an import/export/ catalog sales company and we had a series of credit card frauds happen to our customers all over the country. What was finally found out was that one of the phone bank employees was writing them down and selling the info for $50.00 a piece... She sold about 300 customers info before being caught and it was small beans compared to most of these. She plea bargained and ended up doing less than a year in the klink...

[Classic Finn]

Romania and Bulgaria are hotbeds of credit fraud too. My university supplied card(I work there) Got picked up in September of last year and $7000.00 worth of charges were made on the Amazon.eu website. Fortunately we have a good system of catching these and nothing was ever delivered. The purchases were all traced back to an IP address in Romania but nothing could be done past that...

The card was physically present in my desk so how they got the info had to be from a vendor... On that note, in the late '90s I was network Manager for an import/export/ catalog sales company and we had a series of credit card frauds happen to our customers all over the country. What was finally found out was that one of the phone bank employees was writing them down and selling the info for $50.00 a piece... She sold about 300 customers info before being caught and it was small beans compared to most of these. She plea bargained and ended up doing less than a year in the klink...

You are very accurate on this. Its true these countries are havens for this type of fraud.

Former Eastern Bloc Countries are Known for this throughout. ever since the Eu has so called opened its borders so has crime all over in Scandinavia. By whom? One Guess.


Have you folks ever caught anyone trying to purchase with so called funny money? Ive caught many trying this onboard ship and at my wifes shop. The Bills are good copies but after awhile you see the difference in it.
Not only US Dollars but Eu Currency as well. And Ive worked for so long in this so I can see if it is or not.

And here again we see innocent people getting angry at us for checking every bill that is used for paying in our shop onboard or on land. I turn them over immediately to the authorities. And I keep the credit card or money received for the authorities. Not only that Ive caught several of one Nationality trying to pay with another Nationality card not even close to the persons Id carrying this specific card.

So does this situation such as Tim encountered make me angry?

Naturally when innocent people are put in the same category as these fraudulant people.

I could go deeper into this but I wont. Not here.

Classic Finn

[mikeschn]

If I ever have a problem with my cards I am going to start buying the single use cards that you can get at Kroger, etc...

Meanwhile, we check our card balances every morning, always alert...

Mike...