Total Catastrophe - On Old Puter Now

[Sonetpro]

subtearanean,

You should try Ubuntu Linux and see what you are missing. You can download a live CD and try it in any machine.

I might have to try that. The last one I used was Redhat. Like subtearanean said you had to tinker with it, at least it was open source so you could look at the code and see what it was doing.

[Classic Finn]

Here is the one I got.

http://www.rocketfishproducts.com/pc-66 ... osure.aspx

Here is one for a Laptop drive.

http://www.rocketfishproducts.com/pc-65 ... osure.aspx


There are several manufactures of them. This was the easiest thing to do. I just stuck my old drive in there and plugged it in. Alot simpler than slaveing it to another machine and recovering it like that. This one plugged in and there was all my files, operating system and everything.

Since I have recovered my files I put a 400 GB drive in it and now it stays plugged in a usb port. It keeps a full backup of my new computer on it. It has a button on it to do a backup at anytime. Or with the software you can schedule it.

If you are looking to replace your laptop look at the sony's. I bought my daughter a Vaio for college and she loves it. We have had it for a year now without any trouble with it. It seemed to be the only one we looked at that wasn't made in china.
My company gave me a Dell for my company laptop and I have had nothing but trouble with it. 5 hard drive crashes, 1 motherboard , 1 memory module and the bluetooth went out twice in 3 years. My company IT guy said that is what you can expect from the cheap chinese crap they build them with.

STEVE or anyone is there any sense to buy new Hd for our labtop?
If we could repair the Hd with a new one Im sure it would still work just fine. Versus buying a brand new machine?

Heikki

If the laptop is fine other than the HD, then it makes sense to just get a new HD and reinstall everthing. Also, if you do that, try to get two HDs of the same size and then get an imaging program like Acronis True Image and keep a backup of your HD that is in the machine on the one that you can use through USB. You need to back a new one OFTEN, though for it to be truely useful.

Yes the labtop worked witout problem before this happened. So were wondering about just the HD replacement and reinstall programs.

Heikki

[Classic Finn]

Here is the one I got.

http://www.rocketfishproducts.com/pc-66 ... osure.aspx

Here is one for a Laptop drive.

http://www.rocketfishproducts.com/pc-65 ... osure.aspx


There are several manufactures of them. This was the easiest thing to do. I just stuck my old drive in there and plugged it in. Alot simpler than slaveing it to another machine and recovering it like that. This one plugged in and there was all my files, operating system and everything.

Since I have recovered my files I put a 400 GB drive in it and now it stays plugged in a usb port. It keeps a full backup of my new computer on it. It has a button on it to do a backup at anytime. Or with the software you can schedule it.

If you are looking to replace your laptop look at the sony's. I bought my daughter a Vaio for college and she loves it. We have had it for a year now without any trouble with it. It seemed to be the only one we looked at that wasn't made in china.
My company gave me a Dell for my company laptop and I have had nothing but trouble with it. 5 hard drive crashes, 1 motherboard , 1 memory module and the bluetooth went out twice in 3 years. My company IT guy said that is what you can expect from the cheap chinese crap they build them with.

STEVE or anyone is there any sense to buy new Hd for our labtop?
If we could repair this labtop with a new HD Im sure it would still work just fine. Versus buying a brand new machine?

Heikki

If your hard drive quit working you could get another hard drive and use the recovery disks that came with it. Or you could load your OS and go to their website to get the drivers for it. If your hard drive crashed you might not be able to get anything off it with the enclosure. Does it spin up? or does it make alot of noise ? What kind of laptop is it ?

Steve I was on the forum here, and I decided to check my email and it just froze. When I shut it off normally it restarted as it should but..

It came to the 1st page sort of speak that showed the Fujitsu Siemens logo.. Where it shows the F2 and F 12 to boot and whatever it was..

After that it went a bit further to the page where there are 3 choices to start it problematic and 2 other choices.. below that it has the open with last system used; windows normal and it will open or retry to open in 20 seconds.. it has a lil second clock or gage there..

then it tried to open windows and nothing.. and it started the same process over again.. not being able to get to windows at all.

Our Labtop is a Fujitsu Siemens Amilo F-S PC
Model Code FSP:810U60196

http://www.itreviews.co.uk/hardware/h571.htm

Hope that helps

Heikki

[Sonetpro]

It's hard to tell without actually trouble shooting it.
Fujitsu make some good machines. I used to have a Lifebook and loved that laptop. The MB that went bad in my desktop was also a Fujitsu Siemens.
I might be a bit biased though because I worked for Fujitsu Network Services for 10 years.
If you try the hard drive get the same size or you BIOS might not handle a larger one.

[Classic Finn]

It's hard to tell without actually trouble shooting it.
Fujitsu make some good machines. I used to have a Lifebook and loved that laptop. The MB that went bad in my desktop was also a Fujitsu Siemens.
I might be a bit biased though because I worked for Fujitsu Network Services for 10 years.
If you try the hard drive get the same size or you BIOS might not handle a larger one.

So you may know the model we have then? We bought this in 2004 and weve liked it a lot till now

Heikki

[subtearanean]

subtearanean,

You should try Ubuntu Linux and see what you are missing. You can download a live CD and try it in any machine.

I began playing with Linux from back 15 years ago or so. I've personally met and dined with Ted T'so, Jon "maddog" Hall, attended conferences and symposiums with Richard Stallman, Eric Raymond (quite the party that guy). I've seen lots of iterations that claimed to be the way to go. But going with a live CD is just that, just a taste. Not much chance of making changes to enhance the system, and not much chance of disemboweling the system.


It's a shame that the Linux people can never get together fully, try to get a common GUI and common install routine. They were in the right place, ready to topple MS with the right direction. But, what held them back is what made them such a threat....everyone was trying to make the "next best thing".

Which brings us back to the Mac. OS X is built up from BSD, another UNIX variant. Always been known as a clean safe system. Apple put an easy to use GUI on UNIX underpinnings. And, incredibly, a support system for users with problems.

8 years ago I had an Apple 6500PPC triple booting BeOS, YellowDog Linux, and Mac OS 9. Ahhhhh.........those were the days, eh?

[asianflava]

The big plus for an external HD enclosure is that it is still useful after you have done your recovery.

And as long as the drive is still viable that makes sense. If it is truly a hardware issue the box becomes a paperweight (until you purchase a good unit to insert).

In the past when drives were $1K per GB (not so long ago, maybe 12 years?) it made sense to try to get every bit of life out of them. I was just pricing some ATA/100 Seagate 7200RPM 500GB units for an upgrade, each come out at $119.00. What is your data worth? I usually recommend tossing drives after 3 years of use when doing client work.

Yeah, with HDs as cheap as they are now, it'd be crazy not to get a replacement for the enclosure. I have one specifically for my pics and mp3s.

[Sonetpro]

The big plus for an external HD enclosure is that it is still useful after you have done your recovery.

And as long as the drive is still viable that makes sense. If it is truly a hardware issue the box becomes a paperweight (until you purchase a good unit to insert).

In the past when drives were $1K per GB (not so long ago, maybe 12 years?) it made sense to try to get every bit of life out of them. I was just pricing some ATA/100 Seagate 7200RPM 500GB units for an upgrade, each come out at $119.00. What is your data worth? I usually recommend tossing drives after 3 years of use when doing client work.

Yeah, with HDs as cheap as they are now, it'd be crazy not to get a replacement for the enclosure. I have one specifically for my pics and mp3s.

And they plug in to a DVR too. They are cheap. I bought a 500gb for the DVR a few weeks ago for $140. It will hold alot of video. That darn sound stage filled mine up on the DVR.

[Classic Finn]

Sonetpro

I went and looked at that Media Center, not sure if it is the same model but wow what a pc.. faster than fast and all the other things that comes with it.

995 Euro and that does not include the screen.. but the boss says we dont
need one like that..

She will purchase it for her company but not this particular one..shucks, the taxation office wont approve it for the deductions..

But I dont understand why..

Heikki

[Classic Finn]

Ok folks I tried the Hd container with the USB and I cant get nothing out of the old Hard Drive.. Ordered a new one for the labtop.

Had a PC Check 6.00 done and all is well except for the Hard Drive..

This home antique of a computer drives me nuts..

Sonetpro or Toypusher are there any other means of trying to collect info from it or is all hope gone..as a sunken ship?

Im frustrated as can be..

Classic Finn

[toypusher]

.......................Sonetpro or Toypusher are there any other means of trying to collect info from it or is all hope gone..as a sunken ship?

Im frustrated as can be..

Classic Finn

Like I said before. If the HD actually powers up, then the data more than likely can be retrieved.

I have this software: http://www.ontrackdatarecovery.com/file ... -software/ and have recovered lots of HDs for folks. There is other software that can be used also, but I really like this one.

[bve]

subtearanean,

You should try Ubuntu Linux and see what you are missing. You can download a live CD and try it in any machine.

Hekki, if you can burn a CD you could use the Ubuntu bootable CD to recover your data.

[bve]

< snip >...heading over to Linux, no matter how polished they state it to be, could be a world of hurt. You'll want to be a tinkerer with Linux.

Hardly, this type of attitude is simply wrong, regardless of all your history with RMS and the others you spoke of in the following post.

I began playing with Linux from back 15 years ago or so. I've personally met and dined with Ted T'so, Jon "maddog" Hall, attended conferences and symposiums with Richard Stallman, Eric Raymond (quite the party that guy). I've seen lots of iterations that claimed to be the way to go. But going with a live CD is just that, just a taste. Not much chance of making changes to enhance the system, and not much chance of disemboweling the system.

It's a shame that the Linux people can never get together fully, try to get a common GUI and common install routine. They were in the right place, ready to topple MS with the right direction. But, what held them back is what made them such a threat....everyone was trying to make the "next best thing".

Which brings us back to the Mac. OS X is built up from BSD, another UNIX variant. Always been known as a clean safe system. Apple put an easy to use GUI on UNIX underpinnings. And, incredibly, a support system for users with problems.

8 years ago I had an Apple 6500PPC triple booting BeOS, YellowDog Linux, and Mac OS 9. Ahhhhh.........those were the days, eh?

There is a reason Apple went with BSD/Unix - you can't deny the reliability of *nix systems, with 40+ years history following the same basic principles. This move by Apple was and will always be the most important they ever made - yes even more important than the iPod.

As for a common GUI for Linux... freedom of choice is a beautiful thing. You speak as though Linux is dead, and it is far from it.

I have more time to enjoy computing using Linux and for _most_ pc users it has everything they need. If Linux were sold on every computer like Windows is, the idea it is hard to use would be non-existant, it is no different learning to use Linux than it is to use Windows. I was born speaking English - it's easier for me than German or French, had I been born speaking German or French they would be easier than English.

Hekki, sorry for the sideways rant - but I really want to dispell the myth Linux is harder than Windows. You are likely to really enjoy Linux if you choose to give it a try. I (and millions of others) would be glad to help you get started, should you choose to try it.

I hope you get things worked out and your data recovered.

[toypusher]

Burke,

You forgot mention that Ubuntu is one of the easiest to install and use!!

And if you have MS software that you just can't live without you can install VM or Crossover for linux http://www.codeweavers.com/products/

[Nitetimes]

Burke,

You forgot mention that Ubuntu is one of the easiest to install and use!!

And if you have MS software that you just can't live without you can install VM or Crossover for linux http://www.codeweavers.com/products/

Is this any better than Linspire? I tried that a while back and it was a real disappointment.