I have a problem, What should I do?

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Postby elmo » Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:54 pm

TRAIL-OF-TEARS wrote:Elmo- I thought the wife was on board until I started to get offers now she is having cold feet.
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Postby madjack » Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:10 pm

Steve, I would basically say togoforit...it seems you have done your research on the additional costs, which would be my main concern...your kids are young enough, that it shouldn't make much difference to them, plus they will get to grow up with the Rockies in their backyard with all the recreation acctivities that they offer...I lived in Golden for about a year in the early 80's and while it has grown up ALOT since then, I enjoyed it...as someone else said, change leads to growth and I wouldn't worry too much about family, I bet they will be up to visit regularly...afterall it's only a hard days drive away......
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Postby Nitetimes » Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:38 pm

TRAIL-OF-TEARS wrote:Nitetimes- That is the funniest thing I've heard in a long time.
I keep thinking that if I stay I am just being complacent.


Glad you got a little laugh out of it. That was just one of those stupid things that pops into your head sometimes. Just seemed to fit.

I agree about the complacent thing. Nothing wrong with hanging on to whacha got but I'd say your family is young enough to give a change a try. And you're liable to kick yourself in the ass for a long time to come if you don't at least try it. JMHO.
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Postby TRAIL-OF-TEARS » Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:09 pm

madjack wrote:Steve, I would basically say togoforit...it seems you have done your research on the additional costs, which would be my main concern...your kids are young enough, that it shouldn't make much difference to them, plus they will get to grow up with the Rockies in their backyard with all the recreation acctivities that they offer...I lived in Golden for about a year in the early 80's and while it has grown up ALOT since then, I enjoyed it...as someone else said, change leads to growth and I wouldn't worry too much about family, I bet they will be up to visit regularly...afterall it's only a hard days drive away......
madjack 8)

p.s. keep the land for now...if it doesn't work out, you can always come on back.........MJ


Madjack, It is hard to give up the land since we are so close to paying it off, plus it is a good investment it is worth about 4 times what we paid for it 8 years ago.

Again thanks to everyone for thier input.
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Postby DBizer » Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:30 pm

Steve,
Making the move would be a "No-Brainer" for me. We live in New Braunfels. The wife says all the time that she wishes we lived somewhere else so we could come to the Texas hill country for vacation!!! If you can keep the property it would be a very sweet investment, the Bulverde/Spring Branch area is going to continue to grow, and land value will skyrocket. Besides it would be nice to vacation in Texas and own your own 26.5 acre private "Resort".
I lived in the Denver area in the late '70's, wish I could have kept the property up there when I moved here. It would be worth about 10X what it was then.
Make the move while the kid's are young, they'll adjust real quick. I had a chance to make a good move a while back, but the kid's were in highschool at the time and I couldn't do it to them then. Now if I could just get one more through college and the other one off the "Payroll", We'd be able to travel allot more, and the Denver/Golden/Vail area would be way up on the list.

Good luck with your decision!
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Postby jdarkoregon » Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:25 pm

Moving will offer you some experiences and appriciation for home that you could get no other way. If you keep your land, there will be some struggles involved, but, you might be able to sleep better at night knowing your have an "out" if the new position doesn't work.

I did a similar thing back in the 80s and moved to Santa Barbara to teach photography at a college down there. I asked my wife for 2 years (she had never lived more then 30 miles away from where she was born) we ended up living there for 5 years, went around the world giving lectures and made some really great friends.

We moved back to Oregon when the kids started getting older. The whole experience was good for our relationship, it made the kids aware of more of the world and gave us all confidence of our abilities to just be by ourselves.

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Postby SteveH » Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:57 pm

Steve,

Just one thing...double check on the cost of housing and the cost of living up there compared to here. You don't want to move up there and spend all the additional monies just to live the same as you have been down here. Good luck with whatever you decide.
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Postby Bigwoods » Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:06 am

We moved away from our families after we were married for a few years and at first it was hard. However, out marriage was stronger for doing it as we only had each other to depend on. Going home to see relatives was a treat and I grew closer to them and appreciated them much more. I still go home to visit after 30 years.

Moving way can be a good thing.
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Postby Juneaudave » Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:38 am

That's such a personal decision that that no one on this board can answer it for you. From the tone of your post, I'm pretty sure you will kick yourself if you move, and you will forever wonder what would be if you don't.

For what it is worth, when I am career counseling a young engineer about taking a move...I always ask if they will be satisfied if they stay, recognizing that their career opportunites may be limited from lack of exposure...or whether the move and the possibilities of advancement outweigh the risk? And how will they feel about that decision 20 years from now...

Some move and advance to top level positions...
Some move and never do better...
Some move and try the rest of their lives to get back to where they started...
Some stay and never look back....

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Postby TRAIL-OF-TEARS » Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:07 am

DBizer- That is how I look at it keep the land because it would be a good place to get away, or go hunting. This 26.5 acres should keep its value kinda high because we are right next to Guadalupe State Park. Yes the kids are young so the move should be easy for them. Thank you for your input.


Oh yes that is Specht's store it is right down the road from me.


jdarkoregon- It will be hard no doubt but if we really like it there and decide to stay Long term we can always sell the land here.

My wife has never lived more than 20 miles from where she was born too.

Thank you for your advice.


SteveH- Bonnie has checked and rechecked the cost of living and housing there. She even made me go price things out at the supermarket and Sams. I think with the move we will have less money but we will have two houses one of which we could always sell.
Thanks Steve.

Bigwoods- that is exactly how I imagine it will be for us. Our family will be stronger and going home will be a nice change, moving away can be a good thing.

Juneaudave- I have asked myself those questions many times. I think I would be kicking myself much more if I did not take this chance than if I just stay here. The biggest con to all this, that I come up with, is that we could lose everything, but that could happen just as easy if we stay or if we go.



After a long discussion last night, we have come to an answer, I am going to take the job in Denver. Tonight we will be telling the In-Laws the news, this is actually the hardest part of this whole decision, I pray it goes well.


Thank you to everyone for your input and advice.
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Postby Pam Wright » Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:02 pm

Steve,

I'm sorry I didn't see your post until this morning.... as for advise on the move, I have none.... you will do what is best for you and the family.

As for Colorado and teardropping.... there are quite a few of us and we try to get together and camp often throughout the summer. Having met you and yours at "Last Gasp 2006", I for one would love to share Ciolorado with you...

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Postby TRAIL-OF-TEARS » Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:20 pm

Pam Wright wrote:Steve,

I'm sorry I didn't see your post until this morning.... as for advise on the move, I have none.... you will do what is best for you and the family.

As for Colorado and teardropping.... there are quite a few of us and we try to get together and camp often throughout the summer. Having met you and yours at "Last Gasp 2006", I for one would love to share Ciolorado with you...

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Hello Pam,
Several factors here at the office made me want to look for a new position but that trip to Colorado is what made me consider moving to CO. I really like it there.
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Postby dhazard » Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:49 pm

Steve, Good luck with the move.
I lived in Colorado Springs for ten years before taking a job in California. I hope that you have as good of time in the mountains as I did. This summer please take the kids up MT. Evans, it will be a day you will never forget.

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Postby mikeschn » Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:57 pm

Steve,

I guess my advice comes a little too late... but here it is anyway...

I moved 3 hours away from where I grew up, so visiting isn't really a problem. CO to TX sounds a little bit further away.

If it were just the wife and I, I might consider it... but if kids were involved, I probably wouldn't.

Anyways, I agree with Todah. Pray on it.

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Postby Claw » Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:02 pm

My experience with owning property out of state has been positive. I have a relative in the area that is helpful in keeping an eye on it. It is in Texas just north of Corpus Christi.

A consideration, the first few years after the move will involve a lot of travel $ back to the old home area plus there will be travel by relatives to come visit the new homestead. This may involve you sharing your home and spending time in relatives homes, which is a different dynamic than day visits with relatives that live close. It can be stressful.

Good luck. Don't look back... always forward regardless your choice.
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