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In election 2008, don’t forget Angry White Man

Postby Nitetimes » Sun Feb 24, 2008 11:24 am

This is a pretty good read and by no means is it just about white men. Lot's of people are starting to see things this way. Of course there are the rest of you...... 8)



by Gary Hubbell
February 9, 2008

There is a great amount of interest in this year’s presidential elections, as everybody seems to recognize that our next president has to be a lot better than George Bush. The Democrats are riding high with two groundbreaking candidates — a woman and an African-American — while the conservative Republicans are in a quandary about their party’s nod to a quasi-liberal maverick, John McCain.

Each candidate is carefully pandering to a smorgasbord of special-interest groups, ranging from gay, lesbian and transgender people to children of illegal immigrants to working mothers to evangelical Christians.

There is one group no one has recognized, and it is the group that will decide the election: the Angry White Man. The Angry White Man comes from all economic backgrounds, from dirt-poor to filthy rich. He represents all geographic areas in America, from urban sophisticate to rural redneck, deep South to mountain West, left Coast to Eastern Seaboard.

His common traits are that he isn’t looking for anything from anyone — just the promise to be able to make his own way on a level playing field. In many cases, he is an independent businessman and employs several people. He pays more than his share of taxes and works hard.

The victimhood syndrome buzzwords — “disenfranchised,” “marginalized” and “voiceless” — don’t resonate with him. “Press ‘one’ for English” is a curse-word to him. He’s used to picking up the tab, whether it’s the company Christmas party, three sets of braces, three college educations or a beautiful wedding.

He believes the Constitution is to be interpreted literally, not as a “living document” open to the whims and vagaries of a panel of judges who have never worked an honest day in their lives.

The Angry White Man owns firearms, and he’s willing to pick up a gun to defend his home and his country. He is willing to lay down his life to defend the freedom and safety of others, and the thought of killing someone who needs killing really doesn’t bother him.

The Angry White Man is not a metrosexual, a homosexual or a victim. Nobody like him drowned in Hurricane Katrina — he got his people together and got the hell out, then went back in to rescue those too helpless and stupid to help themselves, often as a police officer, a National Guard soldier or a volunteer firefighter.

His last name and religion don’t matter. His background might be Italian, English, Polish, German, Slavic, Irish, or Russian, and he might have Cherokee, Mexican, or Puerto Rican mixed in, but he considers himself a white American.

He’s a man’s man, the kind of guy who likes to play poker, watch football, hunt white-tailed deer, call turkeys, play golf, spend a few bucks at a strip club once in a blue moon, change his own oil and build things. He coaches baseball, soccer and football teams and doesn’t ask for a penny. He’s the kind of guy who can put an addition on his house with a couple of friends, drill an oil well, weld a new bumper for his truck, design a factory and publish books. He can fill a train with 100,000 tons of coal and get it to the power plant on time so that you keep the lights on and never know what it took to flip that light switch.

Women either love him or hate him, but they know he’s a man, not a dishrag. If they’re looking for someone to walk all over, they’ve got the wrong guy. He stands up straight, opens doors for women and says “Yes, sir” and “No, ma’am.”

He might be a Republican and he might be a Democrat; he might be a Libertarian or a Green. He knows that his wife is more emotional than rational, and he guides the family in a rational manner.

He’s not a racist, but he is annoyed and disappointed when people of certain backgrounds exhibit behavior that typifies the worst stereotypes of their race. He’s willing to give everybody a fair chance if they work hard, play by the rules and learn English.

Most important, the Angry White Man is pissed off. When his job site becomes flooded with illegal workers who don’t pay taxes and his wages drop like a stone, he gets righteously angry. When his job gets shipped overseas, and he has to speak to some incomprehensible idiot in India for tech support, he simmers. When Al Sharpton comes on TV, leading some rally for reparations for slavery or some such nonsense, he bites his tongue and he remembers. When a child gets charged with carrying a concealed weapon for mistakenly bringing a penknife to school, he takes note of who the local idiots are in education and law enforcement.

He also votes, and the Angry White Man loathes Hillary Clinton. Her voice reminds him of a shovel scraping a rock. He recoils at the mere sight of her on television. Her very image disgusts him, and he cannot fathom why anyone would want her as their leader. It’s not that she is a woman. It’s that she is who she is. It’s the liberal victim groups she panders to, the “poor me” attitude that she represents, her inability to give a straight answer to an honest question, his tax dollars that she wants to give to people who refuse to do anything for themselves.

There are many millions of Angry White Men. Four million Angry White Men are members of the National Rifle Association, and all of them will vote against Hillary Clinton, just as the great majority of them voted for George Bush.

He hopes that she will be the Democratic nominee for president in 2008, and he will make sure that she gets beaten like a drum.
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Postby FireLion » Sun Feb 24, 2008 11:47 am

I'm an angry white man for Ron Paul!!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Postby Wimperdink » Sun Feb 24, 2008 12:05 pm

I resemble that remark. :)
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Postby Sam I am » Sun Feb 24, 2008 4:29 pm

That sounds a lot like me and most folks around here!
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Postby grant whipp » Sun Feb 24, 2008 4:46 pm

Very interesting, inspiring, and enlightening ... up to a point! I was with Gary 100%, right up until the last three paragraphs ... :thinking: ... where it became crystal clear that it was just more of the same Right-wing Conservative Rhetoric and skillful wordsmithing that has burried us so deep for so long, and is aimed at keeping us there despite our supposed common sense ...

... It's the same old "If you feel and/or agree with this statement, then you must stand and/or vote for this candidate/law/regulation" kind of mentality that is total manipulative B.S.! The real TRUTH of the matter is that the truely enlightened and completely aware AWM (no matter that a woman or person of color can, indeed, qualify as an AWM!) is going to stand above all this kind of emotional & manipulative manure and vote and/or stand the way their own conscience and beliefs will guide them, no matter who the candidate or what the law or regulation!

And ... the sooner we ALL find a way to open our eyes and our minds and rise above the self-serving influences of others, the sooner all the changes that need to be made will be made, because it will be the will of the people guiding the hands of change and not the greedy corrupt power-hungry megalomaniacs currently at the helm ...

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Postby starleen2 » Sun Feb 24, 2008 6:25 pm

sounds like a group that is getting smaller and smaller. now let go and stand beside my Woman. Not clinton - my angry white wife :cry: :cry:
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Postby Dean in Eureka, CA » Sun Feb 24, 2008 6:43 pm

I can't comment here because of my BP situation...
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Postby madjack » Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:44 am

grant whipp wrote:Very interesting, inspiring, and enlightening ... up to a point! I was with Gary 100%, right up until the last three paragraphs ... :thinking: ... where it became crystal clear that it was just more of the same Right-wing Conservative Rhetoric and skillful wordsmithing that has burried us so deep for so long, and is aimed at keeping us there despite our supposed common sense ...

... It's the same old "If you feel and/or agree with this statement, then you must stand and/or vote for this candidate/law/regulation" kind of mentality that is total manipulative B.S.! The real TRUTH of the matter is that the truely enlightened and completely aware AWM (no matter that a woman or person of color can, indeed, qualify as an AWM!) is going to stand above all this kind of emotional & manipulative manure and vote and/or stand the way their own conscience and beliefs will guide them, no matter who the candidate or what the law or regulation!

And ... the sooner we ALL find a way to open our eyes and our minds and rise above the self-serving influences of others, the sooner all the changes that need to be made will be made, because it will be the will of the people guiding the hands of change and not the greedy corrupt power-hungry megalomaniacs currently at the helm ...

IMHO

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Right on Grant

Postby bigjim661966 » Mon Feb 25, 2008 12:50 pm

I am with MJ on this one. And Grant. It was a great post right up to the last three paragraphs.

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Postby caseydog » Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:18 pm

madjack wrote:
grant whipp wrote:Very interesting, inspiring, and enlightening ... up to a point! I was with Gary 100%, right up until the last three paragraphs ... :thinking: ... where it became crystal clear that it was just more of the same Right-wing Conservative Rhetoric and skillful wordsmithing that has burried us so deep for so long, and is aimed at keeping us there despite our supposed common sense ...

... It's the same old "If you feel and/or agree with this statement, then you must stand and/or vote for this candidate/law/regulation" kind of mentality that is total manipulative B.S.! The real TRUTH of the matter is that the truely enlightened and completely aware AWM (no matter that a woman or person of color can, indeed, qualify as an AWM!) is going to stand above all this kind of emotional & manipulative manure and vote and/or stand the way their own conscience and beliefs will guide them, no matter who the candidate or what the law or regulation!

And ... the sooner we ALL find a way to open our eyes and our minds and rise above the self-serving influences of others, the sooner all the changes that need to be made will be made, because it will be the will of the people guiding the hands of change and not the greedy corrupt power-hungry megalomaniacs currently at the helm ...

IMHO

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...thank you very much, Grant. I agree with YOU, 110%(great minds, doanchano)........................ 8)


Yeah, I don't fall for that stuff "angry white man" propaganda because, well, I was born white and male in 1961, and that hasn't proven to be such a bad deal.
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Postby jeep_bluetj » Mon Feb 25, 2008 2:30 pm

As mentioned. 'twas OK, up to the last 3, then it was the standard Us/Them garbage with a bigol swing to the right.

But just OK. I can't see how "AWM" have a stranglehold on critical thought, where Happy Asian Women don't. Pretty sure "Disgruntled Indian Dude" can think critically too.

Possibly "Frustrated American Voter" would be a better group. I don't think that race should have much to do with politics. I don't think gender should either. Pandering to any group is a negative in my view. Saying "vote for me because I pee sitting down" is a sad day. Jefferson is spinning like a lathe down there. When I interview job applicants, I don't evaluate them on thier color, thier gender, etc.. I see if they can write code. That's what I need them to do. I don't CARE if they "look like me" I care about tangible results.

So saying "Vote for me. Here's my actual concrete plan to solve <insert actual problem here>" IS what I want to hear. I don't hear it much. I hear bits and pieces. I don't hear the real deal. Perot tried, failed miserably, Possibly it was because he was a total nutjob, or maybe it's just the state of politics.

IMHO, It's a result of the "NFLication" of 'merican politics. 250 years ago it was about real ideas. New ideas. Ideas about freedom, prosperity, and how to set up a government that best allowed the PEOPLE to achieve freedom and prosperity for the PEOPLE. We've lost those. We want freebies now. Now, politics is "red" team and "blue" team and we're all out there wearing the jersey's and waving the big foam finger. We don't really care if red or blue is better. We don't care at all - we just root for "our" team and insult the other team. I'm voting 49'ers this year because I liked Joe Montana a decade ago...

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Postby Claw » Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:13 pm

FireLion wrote:I'm an angry white man for Ron Paul!!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:


Me too, but then Ron Paul is only for those truely love integrity.

Plus I agree with the last three paragraphs. It may be propaganda for someone's agenda but it is still states how I, an AWM feel about someone whose claim to fame is not having enough backbone to tell her cheating husband to get on down the road. I would have a lot of respect for her if she had told him to spend the rest of his presidency at Camp David, I'm keeping the White House!
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Postby caseydog » Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:35 pm

Claw wrote:
FireLion wrote:I'm an angry white man for Ron Paul!!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:


Me too, but then Ron Paul is only for those truely love integrity.

Plus I agree with the last three paragraphs. It may be propaganda for someone's agenda but it is still states how I, an AWM feel about someone whose claim to fame is not having enough backbone to tell her cheating husband to get on down the road. I would have a lot of respect for her if she had told him to spend the rest of his presidency at Camp David, I'm keeping the White House!


Well, at least Bill didn't cheat on his wife with male prostitutes, or in an airport men's room, like a lot of conservative white guys with integrity seem to be doing. ;)

And, I have met in life a lot of men with genuine integrity, who are still wrong, IMO. There is a lot to admire about Ron Paul, but I went through his web site completely, and gave what he has to say a lot of thought, and on several key issues, I think he's wrong.

And, I still can't see what all these white men are angry about -- unless they just want to be angry. I'm guessing that's it. I sure wish all those guys would take "personal responsibility" for just one more thing. Their own happiness. Being an "angry white man" in America is like winning the lottery, and bitchin' about the taxes.

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Postby Claw » Mon Feb 25, 2008 9:57 pm

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So cheating on your wife with something other than a male prostitute is OK :shock: Name one individual conservative or liberal who cheats and has integrity, it is antithetical. But I'm sure it is just a way to argue when substance is unavaliable

Slowly freedoms are being eroded by those who think they know whats better than the individual. America didn't become the home of the 'lottery winners' as you discribe as the result of socialist government programs but by individuals who provide for themself and as a result provide opportunities for other to succeed within the private sector. Frustration or more intensely anger is the result of the squandering of resourses confiscated from the individual, presumedly for the greater good, by those in politics who generally have only their self interest in mind (lack of integrity).

You say; "And, I have met in life a lot of men with genuine integrity, who are still wrong, IMO.", a statement I can totally agree with and there my friend is what makes America great, the ablity to follow one's own trail as others shakes their head and mutter 'fool' because sometimes the 'fool' proves us wrong and makes everyones life better.
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Postby Jester » Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:02 pm

OKay, I'll bite..as long as you guys don't chew me up too much!! Great post, maybe just a litlte too right wing for me but certainly makes good points as do the responses posted here.

My 2 cents: Give me a candidate who: secures the borders, spends our taxes on things that PROMOTE our ECONOMY and not more to SUPPORT those who feel ENTITLED to assistance but for those who truly NEED assistance and will maintain our security both at home and abroad. They should also be concerned with promoting policies that bring our "poor" back into the group that may be less fortunate than others but have a reason to make efforts to improve themselves instead of those persons having reasons to remain "poor" and expect more assistance. They should go forth with the idea that the Constitution is what it is, as it reads and is not open for the interpretation of those who claim to be experts on THIER interpretation of the document when they really are experts at twisting the meaning of that sacred document to meet the special interests of a group that has either the money or the liberal publics sympathy at the time. They should focus not on passing new legislation regulating anything BUT the regulation of passing new legislation. (that will make ya think a bit) They should look at the future with the attitude that we should improve on what we ARE doing and leave what we are NOT doing unitl after the former has been accomplished.
This is ceratinly not an all ensompassing list of things I would like to see. I left out health care because I think everyone should have a chance to BUY it from someplace and in truth everyone does so.....it ain't blowed up it just needs a tune up. As for the other issues they will have time to adress them in thier second term.....if they address the one listed above in the first.

As many times in the history of this country's election history we are faced with the same problem...it never will change and will be the same problem next election.....He who address my concerns the best wins my vote. They may not get'em all right but all we can hope for is that they will at least make some efforts for the issues that concern us.

So, where do we go from here? get out your pencil and let's do what we did in school. List all your issues, list all the candidates and compare thier views AND then and ONLY then add the character and all of the personal aspects of the candidate to get your solution. If that does not work for you..........STAY HOME AND DON'T VOTE. It is too important for anyone to just pick a person because they are black, white, female, male,catholic,protestant,liberal, conservative blah blah blah!!

As for Ron Paul....he will accomplish what Perot did a few elections back. He's not a bad candidate but he cannot win so that makes him an ally of the Democratic Party and that is truly a shame. It does not make him a bad person and those who share his view are not bad people. He just is in a great position to help the democrats secure the election for whomever the designate as a candidate. That will be a tough pill to swallow for me but....there's always 2012!!!

I'm leaning towards NIGHTIMES in '08!!!!
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