Router aluminum

Anything to do with mechanical, construction etc

Router aluminum

Postby LMarsh » Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:39 pm

My aluminum sheeting is hanging over my wheel wells a bit and since they're curved I was wondering if using a carbide flush cutting router bit would work? Anyone try this before, or suggestions? Thanks

Lucas
User avatar
LMarsh
Teardrop Master
 
Posts: 182
Images: 187
Joined: Tue Mar 18, 2008 9:09 am
Location: Rochester NY

Postby Dean_A » Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:56 pm

It's been done successfully by some folks here. I haven't tried it yet, but I've heard the secret is to keep the router at a slow speed.
User avatar
Dean_A
Gold Donating Member
 
Posts: 597
Images: 55
Joined: Sat Oct 21, 2006 5:24 pm
Location: San Diego, CA

Postby mikeschn » Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:59 pm

I agree with Dean.

When I tried to router it off, the aluminum melted and clogged up my bit. I ended up using a jig saw to cut it... both the door opening and the overhang...

Image

Mike...
The quality is remembered long after the price is forgotten, so build your teardrop with the best materials...
User avatar
mikeschn
Site Admin
 
Posts: 19202
Images: 475
Joined: Tue Apr 13, 2004 11:01 am
Location: MI
Top

Postby Sonetpro » Mon Jun 23, 2008 7:11 pm

I tried it with a router. As mike said it melted and clogged up the bit.
I used a rotozip and it worked great. It left a nice smooth edge. It will burn up the bit so when you see it turn black after 3-4' you need to adjust up or down using a different part of the bit. I used about a dozen bits doing the door openings and the top edge.
Make sure you put blue tape where the base will rest on or the shavings will get under it and scratch it. Also make sure there is a template or edge to follow. You can't freehand it, it will get away from you.
}><)))'> ~--------------·´¯) SteveT
You don't know what the limit's are until you take it there.ImageImageImage
User avatar
Sonetpro
Site Admin
 
Posts: 2038
Images: 107
Joined: Sun Oct 30, 2005 8:11 am
Location: Plantersville, TX
Top

Postby Dean_A » Mon Jun 23, 2008 7:40 pm

That's a good point about the tape. You should do that if you use the jig saw to. It's pretty easy to scratch up the aluminum if you're not careful.
User avatar
Dean_A
Gold Donating Member
 
Posts: 597
Images: 55
Joined: Sat Oct 21, 2006 5:24 pm
Location: San Diego, CA
Top

Postby mikeschn » Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:03 pm

Absolutely good point about the blue tape.

In my picture up there, the protective plastic is still on the aluminum, otherwise I would have used protective tape too! ;)

Mike...
The quality is remembered long after the price is forgotten, so build your teardrop with the best materials...
User avatar
mikeschn
Site Admin
 
Posts: 19202
Images: 475
Joined: Tue Apr 13, 2004 11:01 am
Location: MI
Top

Postby Gage » Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:50 pm

:thinking: I must have done something wrong with the Scotsman. I cut my doors (alum), both the opening and the door with a rotozip with a 3/8" router with a pilot and had no problem. Maybe because I was moving right along and not giving it time to heat the alum. I guess I should slow down when I start cutting the skins on the KIT that I'm rebuilding so I can identify with what every one else is/has gone through. :roll:


Well, that's my post for this week.
Image Image Image
Remember 'Teardrop Time'.......Take your time, you don't have to have it finished NOW.
User avatar
Gage
8000 Club
8000 Club
 
Posts: 8321
Images: 28
Joined: Sat Apr 17, 2004 9:14 pm
Location: Palmdale, CA
Top

Postby LMarsh » Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:01 pm

Yeah I figured out the aluminum chips uder the jig saw scratching thing pretty quick. The thing is my skin is already attached and even though I traced it while it was temporarily clamped on it didn't come out perfect. So rather than risk cutting it too small I cut on the large side and trimmed any overhang. But the wheel wells are tricky because I can't see what I'm doing from the back side. I used tin-snips and the jig saw everywhere else it came out decent (will be covered with trim or windows too) but I don't want to mess up at this point. The snips don't seem to cut along an edge good, the jig saw will cut into the wood if I'm not super careful and can see the back side, and my electric shears won't work either. Anyways I guess I'll figure something out. I do have a Dremel but no a Rotozip. :thinking:
User avatar
LMarsh
Teardrop Master
 
Posts: 182
Images: 187
Joined: Tue Mar 18, 2008 9:09 am
Location: Rochester NY
Top

Postby Jiminsav » Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:03 pm

a router works great, just remember to let the router decide what direction it wants to go in.,..one way works great, the other way way leads to damnation and ruin..and a new bit.
so remember, if it fights you going one way, go the other.
Jim in Savannah
If you can read this bumper sticker, my camper fell off.
User avatar
Jiminsav
3000 Club
3000 Club
 
Posts: 3059
Images: 40
Joined: Sat Apr 17, 2004 8:49 pm
Location: Georgia, Savannah
Top

Postby tonyj » Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:07 pm

I rough cut all my openings with jigsaw or shears cutting 1/8 to 3/16ths proud of the line. I then used a laminate trim router with a carbide flushcut bit with bearing to clean up the cuts. Didn't slow the router, but usually masked with tape to prevent scratching. No clogged bit (and I am in fact still using the bit for other woodworking projects).

But be careful. Watch the rotation of the bit in relation to the work, and wear goggles or a face shield and gloves--those little metal shaving are sharp and fly everywhere. They are hot coming off the cut, too.
Still graced with two eyes and ten fingers (due in no small part to luck!).

Just when you think a problem is solved, an uglier result replaces it.

tony
User avatar
tonyj
Super Lifetime Member
 
Posts: 2468
Images: 160
Joined: Mon Sep 26, 2005 10:18 pm
Location: Texas, Corpus Christi
Top

Postby donmaloney » Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:58 pm

I have not tried it, but I read to use WD-40 or oil on the aluminum, and take it really slow.
User avatar
donmaloney
Teardrop Builder
 
Posts: 33
Images: 23
Joined: Sat May 31, 2008 12:44 am
Location: Surprise, AZ
Top

Re: Router aluminum

Postby ssrjim » Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:32 am

LMarsh wrote:My aluminum sheeting is hanging over my wheel wells a bit and since they're curved I was wondering if using a carbide flush cutting router bit would work? Anyone try this before, or suggestions? Thanks

Lucas


I do it all the time and it took a while to perfect it but here is what works. Get the cheapest tiny trim router at harbor freight and cover the base with masking tape. Also get the little plug in device for slowing the device down and dial it down to the slowest speed. Don't trim more than an 1/8 but less is better. Wear safety glasses and long sleeves those chips hurt.
93079
User avatar
ssrjim
1000 Club
1000 Club
 
Posts: 1187
Images: 12
Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2005 7:02 pm
Location: Glendale, az
Top

Postby LMarsh » Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:03 am

Thanks for the tips. Sounds like for about $20 I have a couple options.

Lucas
User avatar
LMarsh
Teardrop Master
 
Posts: 182
Images: 187
Joined: Tue Mar 18, 2008 9:09 am
Location: Rochester NY
Top

Router

Postby So-Cal Teardrops » Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:20 am

IMHO, a router is the ONLY way to go. We cut ALOT of aluminum with a 1/2" flush trim bit. Never had a problem (unless you count the chips landing on your arm, ouch!).

Anything smaller than a 3/8" bit and you will get the melting/clogging as the bit doesn't have sufficient exit routes for the chips. A 1/2" bit is cheap, works great and lasts forever. We get about 12 trailers out of 1 bit.

Also, we just run it in a PC laminate trim router. No RPM adjustment. We have a couple of fancier routers with variable speed, but the torque goes down with speed and you get chattering. So just run it at 30K rpms and let the bit do the work (ie don't force it). Also direction of cut is critical, no climb cutting going on here.

Whatever works...
User avatar
So-Cal Teardrops
Teardrop Master
 
Posts: 103
Joined: Wed May 18, 2005 4:02 pm
Location: Ontario, California
Top

Postby Nobody » Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:26 am

The little 'cheapie' HF router does a great job, especially using a 1/2" trim bit. I cut my siding with a jigsaw, slightly oversize (maybe 1/8-1/4") & used the router at its normal speed to trim flush. As others posted, use eye protection & long sleeves (ask me how I know 'bout the long sleeves :roll: ).

Image
Harvey -

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Doing the right thing ain't always easy but, . . . it's always right!
User avatar
Nobody
1000 Club
1000 Club
 
Posts: 1196
Images: 342
Joined: Wed Jan 25, 2006 1:09 pm
Location: Benton, Arkansas
Top

Next

Return to Teardrop Construction Tips & Techniques

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 7 guests