Designing a Puffie Standie?

[Jim T]

Mike,
Is your head exploding yet? It looks like you have a bunch of good ideas to consider.
Jim

[mikeschn]

I like that one Barrie. All we have to do is get rid of the canvas.

Jim,

My head is not ready to explode yet. So throw some more ideas my way!

Mike...

[angib]

Is it time to repost this photo of an old homebuilt trailer (photo maybe stolen from Iowa Boys?) with a retractable drop floor:



It's nice that the handle operates an over-centre mechanism to raise and lower the drop floor.

It seems complex - but is probably a lot simpler to get right than a lifting top.

Andrew

[mikeschn]

Andrew,

THAT looks like too much work!

Here is the design with the bed turned lengthwise. There just isn't any room to get into the dinette should one be added. Back to the drawing board!





Mike...

[Elumia]

how about a gaucho bed like an Airstream?

Mark

[mikeschn]

Barrie,

This shows a lot of potential. Thanks of course to Navigator, the master designer of flip outs, pop ups and other strange configurations! I will definitely try this in the next iteration!

Mike...

The second option, which I would prefer, is to place the bed across and have a small slideout of about 2 feet for the bed. The slideout that would work the best, in my opinion, is the one Navigator proposed in another thread. Here it is:



That drawing illustrates the point very well (thanks Navigator!). From the drawing you can see that the slideout only needs to be fairly small for your feet.

[mikeschn]

Hey Mark,

A gaucho would work, but I think more people would rather have a dinette table!

Mike...

how about a gaucho bed like an Airstream?

Mark

[Elumia]

Also, didn't someone somewhere make a bolt together custom trailer???

My little Trotwood's frame is made of 2 runs of channel (3") about 4' apart that come together at an A frame couple. Cross members are angle. 2x4's trimmed to channel height sit on angle and plywood floor rests on 2x members and channel.

maybe something similar could be done with a HF frame:

[Elumia]

with a gaucho you could have a table fold of the wall, you would have to sit side by side......

rear door scotty style would also give a bunch of different options

[del]

with a gaucho you could have a table fold of the wall, you would have to sit side by side......

rear door scotty style would also give a bunch of different options

Can I ask a silly question? What is this gaucho you speak of?

del

[mikeschn]

That's interesting... (The flipout for the feet!)



Mike...

[mikeschn]

Here's what I have on a gaucho...

I thought I drew a solid model of it once... I can't find it right now...



Mike...

P.S. Edit: okay I found the solid model of the gaucho...

with a gaucho you could have a table fold of the wall, you would have to sit side by side......

rear door scotty style would also give a bunch of different options

Can I ask a silly question? What is this gaucho you speak of?

del

[mikeschn]

I don't see your Trotwood frame in your album. Do you have a picture?

Hmmmm I wonder who you might be thinking of, re the bolt together custom trailer? Arne?

Mike...

P.S. I'm trying to avoid sitting side by side, it is, of course, an option!

Also, didn't someone somewhere make a bolt together custom trailer???

My little Trotwood's frame is made of 2 runs of channel (3") about 4' apart that come together at an A frame couple. Cross members are angle. 2x4's trimmed to channel height sit on angle and plywood floor rests on 2x members and channel.

[Wimperdink]

That's interesting... (The flipout for the feet!)

Mike...

I thought about that when I was going through the original Puffin 50+ pages. I think thats a perfect way to to extend a bed without comprimising size constraints. I imagined it as a big drawer w' no back that looks like an end table when its inside but has a roll out awning like the slideouts on big trailers to redirect water away when its pulled out for sleeping foot room.

[Elumia]

I never took a picture of the frame... I bet it probably the same as a lot of trailers of late 60's early 70's vintage. It's pretty straightforward, 2 3" channels, with a bent in a mirror image to make an A-frame. 4 straight angle sections connects the channel together. leaf spring axle. floor is just shy of 10' long. I thought about dropping the floor when I rebuilt it, but did not - it has 6' ceiling so I have to duck being 6'4+ (even if I dropped it I'd still have to duck as the angle is under the channel so 3" is about all I could get, and then have something to trip on!)

The old Trotwood is 78" wide with a rear dinette could seat 6 as it is about 6' long, makes to a full width bed, so it is like a King size bed. Single bunk above. Galley across the front, no potty, but a closet if you wanted to convert. In my view, if you have a potty in that small of a trailer, you got no storage for clothing, equipment or cooking gear, as under one dinette seat is a water tank, the other has a small door to outside, that would be good for a battery. add the wheel wells and it leaves little space for anything else.

Maybe I can crawl under and take a picture....

The guy who made his bolt together frame used a half axle if I recall.

Mark