Designing a Puffie Standie?

[cuyeda]

Gaucho build...

Mike you can add this to your notes for a gaucho build.

http://globetrotter64.home.att.net/gouchol.htm
More pictures on this web page!


I would add a couple of fold down legs to aid in stability when pulled out.

[mikeschn]

Thanks Cliff! Good pictures!

Mike...

Gaucho build...

Mike you can add this to your notes for a gaucho build.

http://globetrotter64.home.att.net/gouchol.htm
More pictures on this web page!


I would add a couple of fold down legs to aid in stability when pulled out.

[StilesMA]

That's interesting... (The flipout for the feet!)



Mike...

Hi all,
I am a neebie to posting but have been lurking here for sometime. I am really impressed and admire everybodys creativity and cooperation. I hope I am not speaking out of place so heres my minute .02$ worth.

How about adding another board to the end of the fold out and putting the whole works on the side with the door and using this surface to cook/eat on outside. Although I understand this idea does not really add anything to the genral design just a small detail.
Stiles

[mikeschn]

Hi Stiles,

Welcome to the forum.

All ideas are welcome.

I think I'd rather have another flipout on the other side, and make it into into a kitchen/galley/work area of sorts. And in that case, the extra board you mention would come in handy.

Mike...

[StilesMA]

Hey your right, thats an even better idea!
Thanks
Stiles

[mikeschn]

BTW, Donutboy is building the 78" wide version of the Puffin. You can see the pictures here...
http://tnttt.com/album_ ... er_id=5017

Here's his bathroom!



Mike...

[StilesMA]

I love the Puffin it is one of my favorite designs. The bathroom for me is a more important feature than a galley in a standie.
I am very comfoatable cooking outdoors and really prefer it.
Donutboy's Pufffin really looks great! How fortunate for him that that floor plan works for him. Unfortunately for me I would neeed to spend more time on the treadmill and less time on the coumputer if you know what I mean LOL!
BTW What size trailer is he using?

[GPW]

A bathroom (potty and shower) was on top of the list for "her worship"...wouldn't consider any TTT without one..
I'm with Stiles , cooking outside is the preferred location and doesn't heat up the interior or fill the trailer with cooking odors for hours ...
Big Mike, a trundle bed would solve your space problems , give you a sofa , and a small folding table under the "trundle" would be the dinette...

[Walt M]

Hey Mike, I'm thinking about the two level trailer "bgordon" mentioned the raised level could be the bed area (like a fithwheel) with the bed runing the width, you could still do the pop out area for feet to lengthen the bed a bit? are you looking for a Shower/potty or just a potty? if it's just a potty you could incorporate the potty under a seat (like in the dinette area) with maybe a curtain for privacy?

[kirkman]

Mike,
I like the flip out idea!!! I am 6'6" and was considering this for my next tear. All thought a standie for me would mean a bend-overie. I know I could never get it high enough for me to stand in and still stay in the profile of my tow vehicle!

[LesterS]

To address the width-wise vs. lengthwise sleep area issue... Yes lengthwise gets the sides of the trailer inline with the tow vehicle but it does add that diffence to the length overall. You still can sit opposite on a "dinette" too. -- The solution? The table doesn't need to be as long as the "bench". Now you can slide in.

As far as potty rooms using up the area for counterspace - well how many people are really gonna cook INSIDE? (I don't particularly like my bed linens and clothes smelling like bacon and or onions either!).

I offer the layout of the Nest'r as an example. It still has small counter space.

Sorry for my conspicuous absense and lack of real progress, I have been assigned to a 1-year work project that requires I travel alot. (I'm in Chicago right now).

My album: http://www.mikenchell.com/forums/album_personal.php?user_id=5360

For the record, the Nest'r is... 64" wide, 84" tall, and 126" long (160 w/tongue) Interior height is 73" (8.5" drop well) the potty room is about 29 x 50. Oh and the frame is a standard HF, stretched to 114"

The build is chronicled here: http://www.tnttt.com/viewtopic.php?t=19404&start=30&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

I don't know how to point to a specific post, but a post on page 3 has a link to an e-drawing, dimensioned and modeled in SolidWorks. (Read the post about the download - it's a pretty cool demo).

Just one more build to (maybe) draw inspiration from?

[navigator]

This shows a lot of potential. Thanks of course to Navigator, the master designer of flip outs, pop ups and other strange configurations! I will definitely try this in the next iteration!

Thanks for the props, always looking to get the most out of the least!

Using a borrowed pop-up, my wife and I tried sleeping both directions (across width of trailer, and with length of trailer). We found sleeping length-wise to be much more convenient, as no climbing over the other person is required to get in or out of bed. Also, each person can have a window. Keeping our feet to the aisle made it easy to get up for those annoying 2AM nature calls, without unduly disturbing each other, and the view made the space feel bigger (not looking at the wall at your feet).

In my view, there is no need for a bath 'room' or closet, how much privacy do you need from your spouse? (My assumption of most users...) Put the potty in a cubbyhole under the bed or a bench seat, pull it out when needed (nighttime), push back under when not. My thought is to use a dropped floor in the 'aisle' as a drain pan for an indoor shower, and hang a shower curtain to protect bedding, etc.

Instead of a dinette, why not sit on the bed and have a drop-in or lift-up table? Airstream used to have (may still...) backrests that were used to make a seat out of a bed, wood-framed with padding for your back. Maybe I can find a picture.

I still prefer a hard-side, lift up standie, like the Esacape Hatch. Keep the body length to nine feet, though. See some ideas here: http://tnttt.com/viewto ... 4&start=30

[bgordon]

Wow, I've been away a few days and look at all the replies (I did not really expect anything else).

Anyway, I understand Navigator's point of the lengthwise sleeping arrangement being easier to work with. However, if space is at a premium, then the slideout is, in my opinion, a good option. Mike, I think you did a good job of making that slideout drawing. I personally think it can work quite well, especially in our fuel conscious times...

Take care...

That's interesting... (The flipout for the feet!)



Mike...

[M B Hamilton]

Mike,

Since longitudinal sleeping is better in terms of reducing trailer width and avoiding one sleeper having to crawl over the other (to make a "mid-night run"), why not have the tip out off the back? There's no galley back there, and it would allow builders the opportunity to build a hatch if they felt denied.

Mark

[mikeschn]

I like that idea... a lot!!!

Mike...

Mike,

Since longitudinal sleeping is better in terms of reducing trailer width and avoiding one sleeper having to crawl over the other (to make a "mid-night run"), why not have the tip out off the back? There's no galley back there, and it would allow builders the opportunity to build a hatch if they felt denied.

Mark