solar chargers in the Northwest

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Postby dreadcptflint » Wed Jun 25, 2008 12:21 pm

Having been raised in the Pacific Northwest, if you must have power (such as to run a medical device like a CPAP machine) you should look at a generator unless you want to carry a weeks worth of fully charged batteries into the woods - Nio amount of solar panels are going to give you a source of dependable energy where you live - Don


Don, I live on the non pacific side of the Northwest so it is classified as Desert. My wife just likes to camp where there is shade. I think that with a fairly good sized battery array & panel. I should do just fine. I wil however keep everyone posted.

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Postby Alphacarina » Wed Jun 25, 2008 7:25 pm

Good point

If you use a portable array so you can sit the trailer in the shade and the panels in the sun, you'll probably do just fine

I had good luck with DC refrigeration on my sailboat using two 100 watt panels - They didn't 'break even' with the fridge, but with a BIG battery bank I could go a week or so without running the engine to recharge the batteries

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Postby Airspeed » Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:52 pm

I have 20 watts of solar power, I mounted my solar panels on a tripod so I can move it out of the shade into the full sun. I start out with a full charge on my deep cycle battery, I run my XM radio and cd player all day, watch a movie on the DVD player at night, run the porch light at night, galley light, cabin lights, water pump, charge my cell phone, etc. After 4 days and 3 nights I have as much or more power in my battery than I start out with.
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Postby 2bits » Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:16 am

Airspeed wrote:I have 20 watts of solar power, I mounted my solar panels on a tripod so I can move it out of the shade into the full sun. I start out with a full charge on my deep cycle battery, I run my XM radio and cd player all day, watch a movie on the DVD player at night, run the porch light at night, galley light, cabin lights, water pump, charge my cell phone, etc. After 4 days and 3 nights I have as much or more power in my battery than I start out with.
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Which model did you get? Where did you get it from? Do you have any pics? :twisted:
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Postby Airspeed » Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:43 pm

Which model did you get? Where did you get it from? Do you have any pics? :twisted:[/quote]
I bought 4 panels that come with VW's, I removed the factory diode/limiter and connected the panels all together. Without the limiter they put out 18 volts/5 watts. I bought a small solar controller and built a frame out of 1/2" copper tubing and mounted it to a tripod I had laying around.
I think the whole thing cost me less $75 and it works really well.
I allways have a full battery no matter how long I am out camping. A.H
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Postby LazyJones » Mon Jul 14, 2008 4:05 pm

Hello,

I am in the solar business and you are all correct in many ways. The best way to deal with camping in the shade is to drag a solar module out into the sun. Unfortunately, sometimes they will "walk off" if you leave them out while running down to the store or going fishing. If your trailer is in the sun when it is not camping, the best bet is to put the solar on permanently, and then use a larger battery bank. However, this also adds more weight to your little rig while towing.

Flexible solar modules are about as efficient ( power output per area ) as the thin film Chinese stuff at Harbour Freight. Regular solar modules with standard silicon cells will put out the most amount of power per square foot and they tend to be more rugged than the Harbour Freight variety.

When you put a solar module in the shade, you can measure a little bit of voltage, but very very little current. Current is what you are trying to push into your battery by having more voltage in the solar module than the battery voltage.

Line loss will be very low if you use a 10 or 12 Ga wire in your two wire 50 foot extension cord. Most modules are producing power at a higher voltage than your battery wants anyway. The line loss is usually measured in voltage loss, so if you lose 1/2 to 1 volt out of a 16.5 volt module, no problem.

Hope this helps a bit.

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Postby dreadcptflint » Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:45 am

Airspeed, I really like that hack using the VW panels and the tripod.
Gary, What set up are you using?

Has anyone tried one roof mounted panel and a remote array?That would give you at least a trickle if the remote 'walked away'. I don't have a vent but I can see that roof space is a premium on my trailer.
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Postby kirkman » Sun Jul 27, 2008 8:26 am

How about adding this to your charging plan?

http://www.thekevdog.com/projects/wind_generator/
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Postby dreadcptflint » Sun Jul 27, 2008 10:32 am

Kirkman,
I will admit, I am not a big fan of the wind power. Too many moving parts, you have to deal with a mast, you need constant wind. I have like solar in that it is a little more user friendly.

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Postby mikeschn » Sun Jul 27, 2008 10:55 am

got this for my birthday yesterday...

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I wonder if I can talk the resident electrician into connecting it up today? :?

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Postby kirkman » Sun Jul 27, 2008 7:01 pm

dreadcptflint wrote:Kirkman,
I will admit, I am not a big fan of the wind power. Too many moving parts, you have to deal with a mast, you need constant wind. I have like solar in that it is a little more user friendly.

Matt


Yea but when the sun is behind the clouds the wind is usually blowing!....... Here is a real nice one! Nothing to assemble just put it on the RV pole they also sell and hook it to you battery and your in business!

http://www.earthtechproducts.com/p4000.html?productid=p4000&channelid=NEXTA
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Postby Gaston » Tue Dec 02, 2008 8:02 pm

Have a solar question so I thought I'd dig up a old post and revive it.
I have a Engel mt35 portable refer and I would like to add solar to my teardrops roof to keep it going and the batteries charged .
the Question is ... has anyone used the Harbor freight 45 watt 3 panel kit with there teardrop?? hows it working??? are the panels "tough" to rack mount on the roof top carrier ??? are they water proof if laid flat???


ps its on sale for 179.99 :thinking: :thumbsup:
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Postby Gaston » Thu Dec 04, 2008 11:36 am

never mind. I bought them so I will know soon enough!! :thinking: :oops: :thumbsup:
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Postby emiller » Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:09 pm

kirkman wrote:How about adding this to your charging plan?

http://www.thekevdog.com/projects/wind_generator/

Kirkman I built one awhile back
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Postby DDkwac » Fri Dec 12, 2008 4:13 am

Gaston wrote:I have a Engel mt35 portable refer and I would like to add solar to my teardrops roof to keep it going and the batteries charged .
the Question is ... has anyone used the Harbor freight 45 watt 3 panel kit with there teardrop?? hows it working??? are the panels "tough" to rack mount on the roof top carrier ??? are they water proof if laid flat???


ps its on sale for 179.99 :thinking: :thumbsup:


I don't have a teardrop but I have the engal and 12 of the HF panels.
I'm on the Oregon coast and this setup just barely works during the winter.

The panels are 2 years old and today I noticed the film on one panel was starting to corrode.
This, to me, appears to be a bad thing.
I'll be testing that panel when it gets sunny again.

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