Designing a Puffie Standie?

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Postby navigator » Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:20 am

You mean like this?

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Postby bgordon » Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:01 am

Hi all,

I had a chance over the weekend to play a bit in Sketchup. A few posts ago I talked about a standie based on the Escape hatch. Well, this is what I have in mind (the concept).

An escape hatch/Kampmaster/Winter Warrior with a foldout on the side of the bed (on the side because it's easier than the curved front), as well as a slideout for the kitchen on the other side.

With something like this one will certainly save a bit on fuel!!

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Postby mikeschn » Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:13 am

Very nice design Barrie,

That's what I was trying to do with the optimized Winter Warrior. But the fold out for the bed and the slide out for the galley are really nice touches...

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Postby Mark & Andrea Jones » Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:20 am

bgordon wrote:
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I like it.

What about an elevated bunk bed on the right, so that it hangs out (or has a flip out section) over the legs / feet area of the main bed? Then there would be room for a third person or a small child.

And if the elevated bunk were over some cabinets, there would be room for clothes, camping gear, etc and it should still fit underneath the hatch when it is closed. Oh, and some skinny cabinets on the left side - maybe ones that are accessible from the inside or the outside of the TD for galley storage to supplement the slide-out that you have.

Aren't I full of ideas today? :lol: :lol:

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edit: Sorry, Mike. You must have posted before I finished! :lol:
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Postby Duane King » Tue Jul 15, 2008 1:52 pm

I have come to this thread late and have yet to read every post entirely. I just sort of skimmed the topic and may have missed some important points. But I have a question for everybody. A lot of these "standie" designs seem to have an aisle where standing or walking will take place. Other than that aisle, it seems that crawling is the order of the day. (to crawl into a bed or dinette set-up, for example). Anyway, if the standing is limited to the aisle, why not lower the aisle down to ground level? This way the trailer height could be kept to a minimum. A simple drop floor might be a "trap-door" sort of idea. A floor panel could be removed (and used outside as a table) and then canvas panels could go down to the ground to define and seal off the standing area. It would be like a little knee high tent under the trailer. The standing floor itself could be more canvas or a wood slat sort of thing made from teak wood.

Has this kind of idea already been fully explored by others?
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Postby StilesMA » Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:15 pm

Hey I like all the ideas, but what happened to the Shower/Potty Room :NC
Without the "Bathroom" My wife won't let me build,, :oops: I mean I mean the plan will not work for me.
I am sure I am not the only one in this boat.
Let me pose this question, without the stand up shower/potty room, whats the point of a standie?
We already have the galley outside.
Why not a weekender?
Maybe Im missing the boat all together feel free to correct me.
Just thought I would stir the pot. ;)
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Postby mikeschn » Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:21 pm

Oh, that's not the "standie" design that I posted. That's an older design called the Optimized Winter Warrior.

I am still working on the Standie, with the shower and bath!

This is what you have to look forward to. Are you sure you are ready?

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Postby StilesMA » Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:27 pm

Oh, ok.
Thanks for setting me straight Mike. :)
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Postby StilesMA » Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:31 pm

Yea that's what I 'm talking about! :applause: I knooow I can sale this idea to the DW now! :D
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Postby mikeschn » Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:56 pm

My boss approved of it too!!!

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Postby mikeschn » Tue Jul 15, 2008 6:25 pm

If you make the rear end flat or straight, it would be easy enough to add the flipout...

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Postby Sparksalot » Tue Jul 15, 2008 6:51 pm

Duane King wrote:I have come to this thread late and have yet to read every post entirely. I just sort of skimmed the topic and may have missed some important points. But I have a question for everybody. A lot of these "standie" designs seem to have an aisle where standing or walking will take place. Other than that aisle, it seems that crawling is the order of the day. (to crawl into a bed or dinette set-up, for example). Anyway, if the standing is limited to the aisle, why not lower the aisle down to ground level? This way the trailer height could be kept to a minimum. A simple drop floor might be a "trap-door" sort of idea. A floor panel could be removed (and used outside as a table) and then canvas panels could go down to the ground to define and seal off the standing area. It would be like a little knee high tent under the trailer. The standing floor itself could be more canvas or a wood slat sort of thing made from teak wood.

Has this kind of idea already been fully explored by others?


EdEvans has kinda followed this line. He built a custom frame with a low floor so his wife could enter/exit easily.

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Postby bgordon » Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:02 am

Mark & Andrea Jones wrote:I like it.


Thanks!!

Mark & Andrea Jones wrote: What about an elevated bunk bed on the right, so that it hangs out (or has a flip out section) over the legs / feet area of the main bed? Then there would be room for a third person or a small child.


As a matter of fact, I designed the trailer so that one can put in two bunk beds, one on top of the other (I have two children). You don't need the flipout, because the beds can be standard length (1.85m or 73 inches). This is what it looks like when the beds are in place:

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This means that there will not be any place for the bathroom :cry:

MikeSchn wrote:Very nice design Barrie


Thanks! Especially coming from you.

StilesMA wrote: Hey I like all the ideas, but what happened to the Shower/Potty Room.


I deliberately did not include the bathroom, because I wanted to test the concept first. But of course there is room for the bathroom! But then the trailer will be a two sleeper only... :cry:
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Postby GPW » Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:36 am

We're with Stiles... Gotta' have a bathroom for "Her Worship"...and a shower... :o Why build a Standy' without one ...
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Postby Duane King » Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:12 pm

Back when we used to own a tent trailer we discovered we did not like to cook in the cabin galley. It was too cramped and the cooking smells kind of took over the whole cabin. I think a similar problem might arise with having a porta-potty in a tiny trailer. Depending on how small your trailer and what diet you follow, it could get kinda ripe in there.

:?

The only reason I would want a toilet in a small trailer is if I was camping in a totally remote area and bathrooms were not available. Just my two cents. . .
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