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Bending Plywood

Postby Gerdo » Sat Jul 16, 2005 9:57 am

I have 5.4mm (3/16) birch plywood for my interior and I need to bend it around the front curve (20"radius). Are there any tricks that will help it more flexible? would getting it wet help?
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Postby Ron Dickey » Sat Jul 16, 2005 12:18 pm

I have not gotten this far but have been reading for years.

look at this his is something like yours

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look at his roof line. the bars inforce it and you glue to each with very strong glue. his bars he over killed with right angles most just glue and screw.

research it more go to seach above and enter roof or arch or both and see what you get.

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Postby Ben W » Sat Jul 16, 2005 1:27 pm

I don't think you would want to soak the ply like you would a solid piece of wood. Soaking it for a few days would probably weaken the glue and warp the laminates.
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Postby webbedouin » Sat Jul 16, 2005 3:27 pm

You might try some long ratchet straps. Was bending 1/8 inch, just laid it in place, fastened the bottom edge, bent it over as much as i dared by hand and then used the straps to pull it tight over the curve. Worked really well.
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Re: Bending Plywood

Postby Endo » Sat Jul 16, 2005 4:09 pm

Gerdo wrote: Are there any tricks that will help it more flexible?



Kerf cuts. I made 72 kerf cuts about half the thickness of the plywood, it made it very easy to bend.

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Postby TomS » Sat Jul 16, 2005 5:22 pm

I cheated. I used flexible plywood purchased from from these guys.
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Postby Woody » Sat Jul 16, 2005 5:41 pm

I got the board wet (both sides) with hot water and placed towels wet with very hot water on the boards prior to install. It bent fine. use supports props to hold in place during install. Seemed to work fine, no problems
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Postby WoodSmith » Sat Jul 16, 2005 7:14 pm

I've not made a tear drop (yet) but made a cradel boat which needed bent 1/4" ply. I used my wallpaper steamer and steamed the ply. It made a huge difference. Before the steam, I was using all my strength to get the ply to fit into the clamps I was using to prebend, and I could hear cracking. After the steam, I could easily get another probably 8 inches by hand. This was on a 4 foot long piece.
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Postby Marck » Sun Jul 17, 2005 8:59 am

Endo,
How far apart are your kerfs??? From the pics, they look to be about an inch apart...is that right??
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Postby Gerdo » Sun Jul 17, 2005 6:00 pm

Well I cut and then hosed the ply down with water. I kept hosing it down for about an hour. I live in Denver so things dry quick so I was not too worried about the water. It still took alot of pushing and shoving to get the plywood into the curve. This is the inside so I could not use straps.
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Postby Endo » Sun Jul 17, 2005 8:23 pm

Marck wrote:Endo,
How far apart are your kerfs??? From the pics, they look to be about an inch apart...is that right??



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The kerf cuts are 1/2 inch apart. It took alot of time but it made bending very easy!

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Postby ellisdee9091 » Fri Jul 22, 2005 12:22 pm

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I would not recommend kerfing the plywood...from my personal experience kerfing just gives it a place to break...do not wet it, it will delam
I bend the interior ply on my trailers around a 20" radius with no problem.
I am also in littleton, actually a little south near santa fe dr. and titan road.
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Postby doug hodder » Fri Jul 22, 2005 10:18 pm

I used 1/8 material, but my grain also runs
lengthwise with the cabin..I went with 1/8 as it will
bend easier and since I was going against the grain I
needed all the help I could get. I used screws with
a backer block until the epoxy cured, then pulled them
out and decorated the spot with a stainless screw
with a finishing washer..I didn't use any kerfs, or water
to get it to bend....just muscled it in place and shot screws...
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Postby Marck » Fri Jul 22, 2005 10:52 pm

Problem I have is I can't find anywhere locally to get 1/8th in ply
Best I could find when building the six-pack was 1/4
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Postby Endo » Sat Jul 23, 2005 5:51 am

ellisdee9091 wrote:I would not recommend kerfing the plywood...from my personal experience kerfing just gives it a place to break



The kerf cuts make it so flexible if your not careful it will break. You need at least two people while installing the kerfed plywood.
Once it is glued to the roof spars and the roof insulation is glued to the back of the plywood it is as strong as ever.
Adding the exterior skin of plywood stiffens the whole "laminated" ceiling even more.

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