In Defense of the Lowly Ford Pinto!

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In Defense of the Lowly Ford Pinto!

Postby grant whipp » Sun Jan 04, 2009 5:35 am

I didn't want to hijack the thread over on the Construction section any further, so I thought I'd bring my response to Doug's little slap at the Ford Pinto over here ... :R ...

Read it if ya want ... pass it over if ya don't ... but herein lies another one of my stories ...

Nitetimes wrote:
planovet wrote:
doug hodder wrote:I've just never heard a sentence with the word "cool" and "Pinto" in it.


Wouldn't that be an oxymoron?? :thinking:


Never seen one with a 351 and a 4 speed in it have ya?? 8) 8) :lol: :lol: Very cool!!!


Well, my first real car (you know ... one that you didn't have to work on every day and worry about whether it would break down or fall apart half way across town) was a 1971 Pinto Runabout, 1600cc, 4-speed (you remember the Runabout, right ... had the hatchback and the rear seat that folded down and absolutely flat ... ;) ...?). Bought it brand new in Jan. of '72 with 196 miles on the clock and payed $1,976.00 for it, tax, title, & license. The first thing I did was put 2" of foam rubber under the snap-down carpet padding in the "cargo area" (think about that for a minute ...). The second thing I did was put a killer 8-track sound system in with a set of speakers from my home unit. Finally, I put on a set of slotted mags with 60-series tires ... skinnies up front, fatties out back.

Now, most of the guys I hung out with and cruised downtown with had cars like a '68 Firebird, '68 Dodge Coronet 383 Six-Pack, '67 GTO, or '67 Hi-Po Mustang ... you know, muscle cars, that really attracted the ladies! Funny thing was, though, that when we were hanging out in the parking lots or down at the City Park, everyone was gathered 'round the back of my lowly Pinto, hatchback up, tunes crankin'! The other thing was that when ever any of my buddies got hold of a hot date and wanted to take them on the "Dam Cruise" and check out the submarine races over on the west side of the lake, they'd want to trade cars with me for the evening ... :thinking: ...! I'd get their car with a full tank of gas and they'd get my car with a full tank of gas ... I'd get my car back with over half a tank left and I'd typically go through 1-1/2 to 2 tanks in their cars! Oh, and when it came to hot dates picked up downtown (or otherwise), they weren't doing any better than me!

I was also a member of the local Sports Car Club and would run the Pinto regularly at area Autocrosses, routinely bringing home 2nd & 3rd place trophies and occasionally a 1st ... spanking older guys in my class with supposedly superior-handling cars and more experience! And for about 3 months, I frustrated the hell out of a former classmate who had a Porshe 911 when every weekend I would outrun him on the River Canyon Road between Lakehead & Dunsmuir, CA on I-5 (not because the Pinto handled better or had more power, but because I knew how to drive it ...)

I put 70K miles on that car in just over 2 years, never babied it, thrashed it regularly, but always took good care of it ... it never let me down, and all the while gave me around 27 mpg on the highway and about 23 mpg in town (as long I wasn't playin' squirrel ... :D ...). No, it wasn't as cool as a muscle car or bona fide spots car, but with the custom (for the time) wheels & tires, the killer stereo, and my racing helmet as an arm rest between the bucket seats (never knew when I might "happen" upon an Autocross, ya know), it managed to trip the cool meter, if only a little. More importantly, we maintained a certain level of respect among our peers ... and while my buddies were slavin' to put gas in their tanks for their weekend playin', I was sailin' along havin' a good time and takin' my girlfriends on real dates!

So, give the lowly Ford Pinto its due (at least, the ones before 1973 when the Feds started messin' things up). It might not be the Sophia Loren of the four-wheel set, but in a pretty dress and some tasteful makeup, there's a lively little filly, there, that will take you places in more-than-adequate fashion ... and might even elicit a little envy along the way ... :) :) :) :)

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Postby Geron » Sun Jan 04, 2009 8:30 am

Good Writin' Grant,

When you gonna write a book? I'd buy it!!

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Postby doug hodder » Sun Jan 04, 2009 9:06 am

Just razzing ya Grant....but a saying from the last election comes to mind...."you can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig" My experience differs in that my high school buddy had one and we spent a fair amount of time pushing it or wrenching on it. Seems he thrashed it a bit too much. :thinking: Here's a link that I'm sure will stir some emotions... and Pinto didn't make the list, but who am I to comment...I own a Rambler! Doug

http://autos.aol.com/article/general/v2 ... 4209990001
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Postby jplock » Sun Jan 04, 2009 9:32 am

Hey Grant,
Your story is similar to mine My first new car was a 1972 Chevy Vega Hatchback costing $2,400 it was flame orange the rear seat folded down I had the foam rubber sleeping pad, and had a little tent that slipped over the hatch lid when it was open. My only regret was that it was not a Pinto you see after 24,000 miles the aluminum block engine which did not have steel sleeves in the cylinders started using a quart of oil every 150 miles. So in 1974 I traded it in for a 1974 Nova Hatchback with a 250 cubic inch 6 cylinder this was the best car I ever owned! I think your Pinto story was great!
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Postby Miriam C. » Sun Jan 04, 2009 9:54 am

Hey, does it matter if it was pink lipstick or red... :lol: That Grant is sure a good story teller.

What I remember of the Pinto was a boy friend taking me from Denver to Wyoming with a cross wind. OMG

Course my first car that I owned was a station wagon. :oops: And not a full sized one at that. :lol:
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Postby dreadcptflint » Sun Jan 04, 2009 12:05 pm

Grant,
There is nothing wrong with a Pinto. I have been trying to get my hands on one to turn it into a Pinz Am, complete with T-top and bird on the hood. I think that it would turn more than one head. :thumbsup:
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Postby S. Heisley » Sun Jan 04, 2009 12:34 pm

:applause: :applause: :applause:
Great story, Grant!
Well Done!
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Postby Mark72 » Sun Jan 04, 2009 3:52 pm

Even being a Chevy guy for the most part I have to say the simplicity of the pinto worked to make it a very reliable vehicle if cared for properly. It simply didn't have any extra junk that it didn't need to do the job it was intended for! Wouldn't it be nice if todays cars were like that! If I were to find any old car built on that idea setting hid away waiting for someone to make good use of it once again I wouldn't hesitate to grab it up no matter what brand it was!

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Postby 2old2tent » Sun Jan 04, 2009 3:52 pm

I bought a 1980 in about '86 with 70 thousand on it and sold it in '92 with 200 thousand. Great Pumpkin orange with GT wheels. I loved that car, had to replace the cam twice but that was the biggest issue I had with it.
The kids hated it because the rear seat was so low that they couldn't see out.
Got rear-ended at a stop sign by a Buick (and didn't explode on contact).
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On a side note, I got it for a very good price and I asked the dealer why. He said he had trouble selling it in Topeka because it was the county process servers car and all his customers were familiar with it. :thinking:

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Postby starleen2 » Sun Jan 04, 2009 4:11 pm

Talk about faith - I had two Pintos - A coup and a stationwagon
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Postby grant whipp » Sun Jan 04, 2009 4:12 pm

Geron wrote:Good Writin' Grant,

When you gonna write a book? I'd buy it!!

g


G-rated, R-rated, or X-rated, Geron? A G-rated one would be awfully short ... :shock: ...


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Postby Nitetimes » Sun Jan 04, 2009 4:35 pm

We had a mid 70's one my dad got for my mom, it was in real good shape. She ran it for a long time, then my younger sister drove it for a while, then my brother, then my baby sister. That car took a serious pounding! Not the least of which was my brother hitting a deer at about 60 with it. Car was so low it didn't even put a dent in it, just hit it and flipped it out of the way.
I used it to pull a 73 Fury off a bank one night after a little :tipsy: escapade on the way home. Too fast, too crooked of a road, too heavy of a car and bald tires. ooops. Never even missed a beat jerking that tank off of the bank. Did it again up the road about a half mile. We never did learn to slow down!! Mom never did hear about that one!!
I didn't care for it much but it was a good little car!
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Postby robfisher » Sun Jan 04, 2009 6:01 pm

Just looking at a 1971 Pinto for sale.

700 Horsepower and less than $5000. Sounds like a deal to me.

http://www.75vn.com/car/ad32id9120/
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Postby planovet » Sun Jan 04, 2009 6:38 pm

robfisher wrote:Just looking at a 1971 Pinto for sale.

700 Horsepower and less than $5000. Sounds like a deal to me.

http://www.75vn.com/car/ad32id9120/


Actually, if you read the text he is asking $14,900 for it. The $4,900 in the listing must be a typo.

And I was just kidding too Grant! :lol:
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