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Postby planovet » Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:12 am

Your tax dollars at work. $209,000 for a beefed up jeep.

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Postby starleen2 » Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:16 am

The idea for such a vehicle was developed in 1999 by the Marine Corps, which wanted a vehicle that could be carried in the V-22 Osprey aircraft to support assault operations and that would tow a 120mm mortar and an ammunition trailer


Yea we know how the V-22 program was - overbudget and obsolete after it went into service. You'd think that it would be armored a little better after lessons learned (?) in Iraq about IED's
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Postby Nitetimes » Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:21 am

As cool as that thing looks it is basically worthless. It can obviously be put out of commission so easily that it is kind of stupid to take it into hostile situations. From the looks of it small arms could disable it with very little trouble.
I am pretty sure I could build one for considerably less than 200k too. :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Postby Nitetimes » Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:23 am

Another thing I don't quite understand is the 45 mph top end capability with all modern components??? Give me a break, there's no reason that thing shouldn't be able to hit 80+ without even trying. :roll: :thinking:
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Postby Nut » Wed Feb 04, 2009 3:28 pm

I drove the first vehical (humvee) in 183 convoys in and around Baghdad. About half without armor and half with(which we got ourselfs). Even without armor and just the canvas top and sides on a humvee, it is safer than that thing. It's too easy to see the occupants,......... and get to them.
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Postby Miriam C. » Wed Feb 04, 2009 3:37 pm

:thinking: :lol: Now why would you beef up a jeep that will only go 45mph? And really, if you shoot the driver you don't really need to destroy a perfectly good get away vehicle. :thinking: Course who really wants a 45mph jeep......Guess we will always get it back. :thumbdown:
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Postby Nitetimes » Wed Feb 04, 2009 4:29 pm

Miriam C. wrote::thinking: :lol: Now why would you beef up a jeep that will only go 45mph? And really, if you shoot the driver you don't really need to destroy a perfectly good get away vehicle. :thinking: Course who really wants a 45mph jeep......Guess we will always get it back. :thumbdown:


Yup there were a lot of those surplus 45mph Jeeps around after WWII and most subsequent wars so I guess we'll have plenty of cheap toys in the years to come!! :roll: :roll: :lol:
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Postby hiker chick » Wed Feb 04, 2009 4:39 pm

Would've been cheaper to retrofit Miatas.

This looks like a perfect candidate for the Stimulus Bill.

$600 billion worth oughta generate some jobs.



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Postby Nut » Wed Feb 04, 2009 9:17 pm

hiker chick wrote:Would've been cheaper to retrofit Miatas.

This looks like a perfect candidate for the Stimulus Bill.

$600 billion worth oughta generate some jobs.



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Or maybe some golf carts.
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Postby Elumia » Thu Feb 05, 2009 5:25 pm

It does seem silly not to just buy a regular jeep. could probably get 6-8 for the cost of one growler, nearly as capable.

I understand the need for such a vehicle, just not the need to specially engineered one when the basic vehicle is available off the shelf. It would be cool for one of the off road magazines to do a side by side test of a jeep and a growler.

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Postby Steve Frederick » Thu Feb 05, 2009 5:47 pm

When I saw "Growler", I was thinking home brewed beer! :thinking:

That vehicle reminds me of a golf cart! :lol:
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Postby Lou Park » Thu Feb 05, 2009 7:07 pm

Now thats funny. It started in the Clinton administration and
came after the same administration came back in.
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Postby mikeschn » Thu Feb 05, 2009 7:16 pm

I've never understood how they can take something so simple and make it so expensive and so slow.

Reminds me of that $600 hammer. :duh:

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Postby hiker chick » Thu Feb 05, 2009 7:30 pm

mikeschn wrote:I've never understood how they can take something so simple and make it so expensive and so slow.

Mike...


It takes a bureaucracy.

Hard to believe the Pentagon was built in 16 months. But that was a long time ago.

And I just now discovered that the groundbreaking ceremony was September 11, 1941 (the building was dedicated January 15, 1943).


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Postby BrwBier » Thu Feb 05, 2009 10:24 pm

Steve Frederick wrote:When I saw "Growler", I was thinking home brewed beer! :thinking:

That vehicle reminds me of a golf cart! :lol:

I like the way Steve thinks. I have a collection of growlers and I only paid about $12 for each and filled with beer.
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