Are those long Stanley hinges any good?

[IraRat]

...Ira, Austin does not have a "hurricane" style hinge, If you use a "piano" style hinge for your hatch you will need to put a piece of rubber such as from an inner tube under it to seal it. This method is used regularly and successfully
madjack

Thanks, Jack. Use silicone for the screws and screw holes here?

[Steve_Cox]

[quote="IraRat"]
Steve, did you see a hurricane-type hinge at McMaster? (And others, same question for Austin.) And if you DON'T use a hurricane-type, are there any special sealing precautions? We're just talking about the hatch now.
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Quoted from Mcmaster.com
"Load-Rated Plastic Piano Hinges
These load-rated polyolefin hinges provide smooth operation and long life both indoors and out. An alternative to metal piano hinges, they are designed to be surface mounted with screws, nails, or other fasteners (not included). They have a flexible webbed middle that's 7/32" Wd. x 3/64" Thick., and can be cut to length with a hacksaw or shears. From the folded position, the range of motion is 360° . Temperature range is -40° to +180° F."

Part number for this is 1588A7 that is for a 3 inch wide (when opened) hinge. This would make for a waterproof installation. and not too expensive compaired to hurricane hinges. You could be the 1st to use it too and let the rest of us know how it works.

Steve

[Woody]

Steve_Cox

A while back on another forum (TDT) someone (Name escapes me at the moment) had used those type of hinges and they had very marginal sucess. The major complaint was cracking due to fatigue from use because of the weight of the hatch. The initial failure was noticed was on the side door vertical applications. It sounded like a good idea, but they eventually had to replace all of them due to this type of failure. Don't recall how long it took to fail. Good idea though. Hope this helps

[Steve_Cox]

Steve, did you see a hurricane-type hinge at McMaster? (And others, same question for Austin.) And if you DON'T use a hurricane-type, are there any special sealing precautions? We're just talking about the hatch now.

Don't mind me..... just the new guy trying to learn how to use the software. Sorry about poor quality quote in the post above, I refuse to blame it on the 3 beer lunch syndrome.

Steve

[Steve_Cox]

Steve_Cox

A while back on another forum (TDT) someone (Name escapes me at the moment) had used those type of hinges and they had very marginal sucess. The major complaint was cracking due to fatigue from use because of the weight of the hatch. The initial failure was noticed was on the side door vertical applications. It sounded like a good idea, but they eventually had to replace all of them due to this type of failure. Don't recall how long it took to fail. Good idea though. Hope this helps

Mcmaster.com has two kinds of those hinges, perhaps the ones that failed were the cheaper ones made of flexible polyurethane with no UV inhibitor. The one I referred to was made of load-rated polyolefin rated at 100 lbs per square inch. But... they might turn out to be crap as well.

Steve

[shil]

I used the polyolefin hinge from McMaster. No worries with cracking, but it's not the easiest thing to seal. Nothing sticks to it! I've got a screw every few inches trying to hold it down; it 'puckers' between screws. If I had a do-over I'd come up with a scheme to hold the thing flat, maybe squeeze it under a flat piece of metal. Or something.

It seemed a good idea at the time...

[Woody]

Well like I said I don't remember the details, just remember the discussion about the type of poly hinge. It could been the cheaper ones that were used or the enviroment they were in could have played a factor also. I would use the stainless piano type hinge any way and seal it with a rubber skin of some kind. My first teardrop has this and works well, not a leak yet in many South Florida thunderstorms I have camped and dealt with. I will stick with it for number 2 teardropsince all I have left to do is the hatch and galley also. Why try to reinvent the wheel anyway, I'll stick with what is proven. Just trying to help

[IraRat]

Why try to reinvent the wheel anyway, I'll stick with what is proven.

Yeah, I think I'll go with the stainless piano hinge with the rubber seal. Screwing the holes is no big deal, but I'm still a little confusd on the best way to install that seal.

Just UNDER the hinge? Or does it make sense to put one on top as well? (Epoxied to the flanges.)

I might as well learn all I can about these, since I'll use them for my doors too.

[ralaco]

You can find Hurricane like hinges at:

http://www.teardroptrailers.net/

http://www.teardropparts.com


They accept credit cards


Raul