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[dmb90260]

OH MY GOD!! You say they are tearing down Mt. Norman? It is such a beloved landmark. What will we do without our "mountain range" here in Norman? Will progress never stop it's consuming forward movement to desecrate the entire planet! Don't know how we'll be able to live without it. Oh well, progress must prevail.

Sorry I missed these responses about NTC Norman. I have three main memories from that time.
1) Meeting my Mother in Okla City where she was for a conference and her offering me my first (official) taste of scotch.
2) Falling in for muster one morning and have the CPO announce that anyone who dipped their wick in a redhead at the Black Hotel over the weekend needed to report to sick bay. (Not me this time but it was fun watching some others trudge off the grinder.)
3) A bunch of us loaded several cases of beer ( in dry dry OK) and headed for a weekend at Lake Texhoma. I assume the beer was good but all I recall was the ten thousand dead skunks that littered the highway.

When you are young and silly you remember the important things. Thanks Mom.

[doug hodder]

Chip....you didn't mention what kind of tea!!! Long Island perhaps???
Doug

[Chip]

Doug; thats one of the worst parts of this thing,, I was not dinking anything, I was sober as an angel,, really I promice
just sipping good ole southern Tea,, strong, lots of sugar,,on ice with a splash of orange juice,,really,, boy scouts honor,,
you should add an addition to your signature to your post,, "and the new guys trying to learn to work in wood (like me) mess up a lot of good timber"
My pile of left overs and ooops pieces keeps growing larger and larger,, Them OOPS will get ya every time,,

chipper

p/s: really I was sober,,,,,

[bledsoe3]

Southern tea? Or Southern Comfort?

[Larwyn]

Doug; thats one of the worst parts of this thing,, I was not dinking anything, I was sober as an angel,, really I promice
just sipping good ole southern Tea,, strong, lots of sugar,,on ice with a splash of orange juice,,really,, boy scouts honor,,
you should add an addition to your signature to your post,, "and the new guys trying to learn to work in wood (like me) mess up a lot of good timber"
My pile of left overs and ooops pieces keeps growing larger and larger,, Them OOPS will get ya every time,,

chipper

p/s: really I was sober,,,,,

Chip,

I too drink strong southern tea with lots of sugar. But, be warned, there have been reports of very high levels of dihydrogen monoxide content in iced tea. Perhaps that is the chemical causing your strife.

[Woody]

very high levels of dihydrogen monoxide content

That is exactly why W.C. Fields stated as the reason he would not drink it, that and of course fish have sex in it
I think Chip is suffering from blood encroachment on his alcohol system, which can impair ones judgement

[Chip]

Yea,, Yea,,, pick on da old man,, the AARP patrol will catch up to ya,, the ice tea , Crown etc all are counteracted by 3 pots of coffee and a pint of pickle juice,, and a healthy dose of monosodiumglutamate,, or one of the other basic food groups,,
can I hear an amen,,,,,

chipper

[Woody]

Amen

[doug hodder]

Chip...I'd never say anything against someone learning how to work with wood...I've been at it for quite a while...I just don't let anyone see my screwups...another reason that a wood burning stove in the garage is so nice...hopefully you didn't tear out a lot of high dollar hardwood...Doug

[Grandadeo]

So that's what I need to do while I'm on my wood working learning curve. Put a wood burning stove in the garage to hide the evidence. That will work great here in Florida when it drops down to like 50 degrees on those cold winter nights.

Lee

[Woody]

If that were the case, to fix or hide mistakes, to burn to evidence. I would have been arrested for arson a long time ago. I have a mistake on my teardrop, actually more of a moment of laziness, that after a year of gatherings nobody has noticed at all to my surprise.

[Chip]

Doug,, that was sort of tongue in cheek suggestion,, man after looking at your boat and tear build pics and the raves I have heard about your woodworking abilities,,,,, Well I am just jelous, dag nabbit,, you do some very fine work, now a chain saw hacker like my self,, well I guess I better start looking for a woodburning stove on e-bay
Its an art to being able to fashion nice creations like you have out of a proverbial 2x4,, My hats off to you,, I am learning but the curve seems to lag behind the ideas,, I can visualize it, heck I can draw it,,( the old fashioned way) but between the idea and the hitching it up something goes astray, patience grasshopper,,, patience,, I think I will use the old addage,,, If at first ya dont build what ya really want then tear, tear, again
Proverb by chipper,, yall use it if ya need to,,

back to the drawing board,,,,

chipper

[doug hodder]

Yes grasshopper....whether you think you can or you think you can't, either way you are right........pretty profound from a yeahoo!!! I worked in pine and 2x4's for years before I finally did something in good hardwood, didn't have the $$....it's the only hobby that I've stuck with though the years, glad I have....thanks for the compliments!!....PS wait till you see some of the things that Chris C can do....I am not worthy!! doug

Lee... ship your rejects to me, I'll burn-em for ya!!!

[Larwyn]

Yes grasshopper....whether you think you can or you think you can't, either way you are right........pretty profound from a yeahoo!!! I worked in pine and 2x4's for years before I finally did something in good hardwood, didn't have the $$....it's the only hobby that I've stuck with though the years, glad I have....thanks for the compliments!!....PS wait till you see some of the things that Chris C can do....I am not worthy!! doug

Lee... ship your rejects to me, I'll burn-em for ya!!!

Doug,

In defense of Pine;

Growing up in the piney woods of east Texas my "woodworking' started out with pine, some of it fresh cut and still covered in the natural "bark finish". No shame in that. Some of the most beautiful wood I have ever seen consisted of these pine poles polished by the elements and the cows rubbing against them.

Many of my woodworking project's dimensions were based on the largest piece of scrap pine I had on hand, often assembled with used nails straightend, for the umpteenth time on the old anvil my great grandfather left behind. My skills may not have progressed in proportion to my years but one thing I have noticed is whether using the plane or the saw, pine is much more pleasing, especially aromaticaly, than any hardwood I have ever used.

Not meant to detract from the value of fine hardwoods, I use them myself. Just thoughts triggered by your post.

[doug hodder]

Lawryn....please don't get me wrong...I'm not against pine....I only used it as it was the least expensive material for me to work with while I was learning my woodworking techniques.....in my tear, I used a lot of recycled pine for structural stuff. It was painted and I pulled the nails out of it to make it usable....I used to run a small sawmill in the 70's and cut tons of pine 1x6 out of beetle kill for interior paneling...incredible blue staining in it....I still have some of it...as I ran the mill and could cull out all the premium boards for my own projects....I am not anti Pine....Doug