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Postby Shrug53 » Fri Sep 02, 2005 8:43 am

A while back I saw a post of this picture:

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This is a 1947 Great Western. Here is a little history.

The Great Western Trailer and the Aero Flite Trailers were designed by the same person...Fredrick C. Hoffman of Los Angeles, California. Mr Hoffman first applied for a design patent for the Great Western on August 14, 1946...This design patent was issued on Jan. 6, 1948 (pat. no. D148,300). Mr. Hoffman later applied for the design pat on the Aero Flite on Dec. 20, 1946...and this design patent was issued on Feb. 17, 1948 (pat. no. D148,701). You can access (see) both of these patents by going to http://www.uspto.gov/patft/index.html - click on "Patent Number Search" in the green box....then enter number...

There has been documentation that says the Great Western (GW) was built by the Great Western Corporation of Los Gatos, California (doc. from mid 1947)...this same document also mentions the "Big Clock" movie that the GW appears in. This can not be confirmed. The one thing that can be confirmed is that Hoffman's other, later design, the Aero Flite was made near to the same time, but by a different Company.
The Aero Lines Company out of Van Nuys, California (where I grew up). Production started on this trailer in early 1947 and ran through early 1949...My best guess is at this time (given existing serial nos.) that maybe around 120 of these trailers came down the production line at the Metropolitan Airport before the doors closed. The Aero Flite sold new for $3,395 in 1948, which would have put it up there in the expensive range for a trailer of that size, in that time period. Mr Hoffman was either part of the two different Companies, or (more likely) he sold these two designs to the two different Companies. Mr. Hoffman must have been an aircraft engineer/designer during the War, and after the War, he started designing other things to make a living? Again, this can not be confirmed.

It appears that only two GWs were ever built, that are presently known of anyway and there is a high probability that they were both made in 1946. Think about when the filming must have started for the "Big Clock". The trailer that appears in the Big Clock was also used by the Director (Mr. John Farrow) through the whole filming of the picture...Mr. Farrow liked the trailer so much, after the filming, he purchased the trailer.

Both of these trailers, the Great Western and the Aero Flite are very much alike, in both design and construction. They are made of a riveted, all aluminum frame construction.

Here are the original patents:

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I hope that was helpful. I plan on picking up a copy of the Big Clock, and trying to do some vid caps of the interior of this great trailer.
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Postby Arne » Fri Sep 02, 2005 8:49 am

The way it is built, with no compound curves, it could be created pretty easily as a variation of a teardrop.... It would affect the galley area on most, though....
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Postby s4son » Fri Sep 02, 2005 9:32 am

Does anyone have the deminsions for this trailer? I would love to see one up close and personal but I've only seen a couple pictures on the net.

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Postby Shrug53 » Fri Sep 02, 2005 9:55 am

s4son wrote:Does anyone have the deminsions for this trailer? I would love to see one up close and personal but I've only seen a couple pictures on the net.

Scott F.



I have only seen the one picture. If you have seen others, please let me know where they are.

For dimensions you may want to contact the current owner of the trailer. His info can be found at

http://www.webspawner.com/users/bigyellowt/

As far as affecting the galley, that big raised area, according to the owner, is the kitchen. I forgot to ask him dimensions when I spoke to him last.

I saw this trailer when I was in junior high in the late 70's. I did the following drawings entirely from memory:

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I know I got them backwards but not too bad cinsdering I was working from a 26 year old memory!
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Postby Shrug53 » Fri Sep 02, 2005 10:01 am

Oh and also, apparently, there is a ladder inside which you can use to go up and sit on the roof!
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Postby Sarge » Fri Sep 02, 2005 10:18 am

That is one cool-@ss trailer!

Someone on this board should be able to build one...not me of course.

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Postby s4son » Fri Sep 02, 2005 10:45 am

Sarge,
That would be a cool "club project." Of course then everyone would be fighting over using it. I like the idea of having access to the roof.

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Postby Ron Dickey » Fri Sep 02, 2005 1:09 pm

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http://groups.msn.com/VintageVacationsa ... alcon.msnw
pictures I think of same trailer inside.
shrug ... is this one? foun in
http://www.swvca.com/photos.htm

www.dreamscape.com/dbporter/rentals.htm

these guys might have seen some http://vintagecampers.com/old_camper_ads.htm

Good to hear from you again you have very crative ideas.

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Postby Shrug53 » Fri Sep 02, 2005 1:17 pm

This is the AeroFlite. Designed by the same person but built by a different company. It is pretty cool too. I am going to work with that Great western drawing to see if I can not come up with a sketch with some working dimensions. Still searching for floorplans.

If anyone here is around Sacramento, stop by Vinces place. He always welcomes photos of his trailers!
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Postby s4son » Fri Sep 02, 2005 2:20 pm

Shrug53,

I found the picture along with one of a 1948 Aero Flite.

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The web site has lots of cool pics of vintage trailers as well as some teardrops.
http://www.airstream.dk/hist.htm

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Postby bdosborn » Fri Sep 02, 2005 2:35 pm

Hmmm, I've seen that shape before, only backwards:
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Postby Shrug53 » Fri Sep 02, 2005 6:28 pm

OK, here is a simple drawing showing the approximate dimensions assuming a ceiling height of 6.5'

This is a sized photo. If anyone wants the full sized one, drop me a note.
Pink sqaure are 1'
Blue square are 1"

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This should at least get some people thinking.
The curved area could be made of a horseshoe shaped top ring with posts going down to body in appropriate lengths. I just saw the curved fron part of a church being built that way the other day. I am sure a carpenter or architect could explain it better. Anyway once you have the skeleton in place for the kitchen window you can skin it with aluminum or glass. The you can use plexy for the windows.
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Postby s4son » Sat Sep 03, 2005 10:07 am

The Camp Inn Raindrop reminds me of this 1935 Airstream.

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Postby Bigwoods » Sat Sep 03, 2005 9:32 pm

The Raindrop reminds me of a Star Wars Storm Trooper. I really like it anyway. I think it's grate!
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Postby Bigwoods » Sat Sep 03, 2005 9:49 pm

Do you think it has an inside galley? And would it be in the front or back?

I showed it to my wife and she said her company could build the glass area in the back. They make a similar sheild for ATVs . 3/8 " thick with a curve.
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