Here's what I have learned @ spar varnish-the hard way!

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Here's what I have learned @ spar varnish-the hard way!

Postby nevadatear » Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:02 am

I finally have a finishs that look decent, after three weeks of frustration. What I have learned is to search this forum first, not after I screw up! My mistake, yup, a good brush and the right varnish make all the difference.

I started with Helmsman and poly foam brushes, and fine finish foam roller. I spent three weeks of applying finish, sanding off the awful runs and orange peel, going through three cans of finish, and completely heavily sanding the thing three seperate times. I tried thinning it, then thinning it some more, rubbing on, everything thing but what everyone said was the really right thing--good brush, good varnish. The final straw was what I though was the last coat came out high-low sheen, for no apparent reason. It was the last of my Helmsman. So I took a big breath and bucked up. Bought a can of Man-o-war varnish and a high quality expensive brush (after adding up all the foam brushes I through away after one use and 3 cans of Helmsman, it wasn't looking so expensive.)

So this am I put on what will be my final coat, no matter the result. And the results are good! I thinned it out @ 15% and got up at 6:00 am so it was not too hot yet. Whether it was the brush or the varnish, or more likely both, it went on like a dream, very few runs, spread out nicely, minimal brush strokes visable, uniform sheen, no orange peel (at least not yet). Yeah! finally! it is no spray finish, but I can live with it.

Lesson learned: buy high quality spar varnish, even if you have to drive 100 miles to get it (which I did) and a high quailty brush. You will regret it if you don't.
Debbie (with Randy looking over my shoulder)
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Postby b.bodemer » Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:29 pm

There is a code on the quart and gallon cans of Helmsman Spar Urethane.

It should be last year,08, or this year,09. Anything older could be part of your original problem. I talked with Minwax. Had an 07 and it gave me a lot of trouble when I was recoating my td this summer. They told me to purchase a gallon with a more current date and to send in a receipt. They sent a check and replaced it.

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Postby S. Heisley » Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:31 pm

:applause: :applause: :applause:

Good for you, Debbie! Congratulations!
You didn't give up and you got the job done well enough to make you happy and that's what counts.

:applause: :applause: :applause:

I couldn't offer any help but I can applaud the finish! ("Finish"? Excuse the unintended pun. :lol: )
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Postby SlyTerry » Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:02 am

The reason for sprayguns is????? Just joking around gals...We have 1964 36 foot mahogany ChrisCraft that sucks up varnish like there is no tomorrow. 50/50 mix first coat 75/25 varnish thinners second coat 100% varnish 3rd and 4th coats. two years later do it all over again.
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Postby kennyrayandersen » Sun Jul 19, 2009 6:50 pm

Congrats on gettin’ ‘er done! This is when you sometimes realize that expensive (tools material etc.) is all relative…

SlyTerry wrote:The reason for sprayguns is????? Just joking around gals...We have 1964 36 foot mahogany ChrisCraft that sucks up varnish like there is no tomorrow. 50/50 mix first coat 75/25 varnish thinners second coat 100% varnish 3rd and 4th coats. two years later do it all over again.


That would be a ‘high maintenance gal’ Me and a Porsche parted ways for similar reasons… :lol:
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