Exercise Anyone?????????????

Things that don't fit anywhere else...

Postby Fenlason » Fri Mar 19, 2010 6:46 am

artwebb wrote:
mk10108 wrote:
artwebb wrote:My usual ten and resistance twice.
Jeanne did ten once, but she also did some walkin today at the hospital (went to see her mother, who just had knee replacement surgery)
Doubt she did ten mins walking, but at this point that's still anaerobic exercise for her, like doing sprints.

Anyone else?


Keep working on improvement and the slow incremental gains become the reward. Little things help like planing your exercise to turn a corner at the moment the sun sets. Yesterday I rode a whopping 2.2 miles to the g-store to get bananas. Turned south, looked left and caught the sun falling behind a ridge. Made the hassle of suiting up worthwhile.


Priceless


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Postby artwebb » Sat Mar 20, 2010 2:29 am

Did it a little different today, becuase I've noticed my speed on set two is lower on my resistance days, I did the whole twenty minutes as one set and did the two sets of resistance as two circuits, think I like that better.

Jeanne did one twelve minute ride and TWO ten min rides :shock: THAT'S MY GAL!
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Postby Fenlason » Sat Mar 20, 2010 7:06 pm

We did a 40 mile fairly hilly ride today... a group ride,, and it was fairly aggressive at times... :D
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Century Ride

Postby mk10108 » Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:41 pm

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Finished my century ride. Left the house and headed to Discovery Park via Freeport. Broke a spoke and Lizzee at City Bicycle works had me spinning in 15 minutes. Rolled into Discovery with 20.8 on the OD, Thirty miles later and a repaired flat, did a U turn into the wind. Going strong through 70 miles when the thighs... grumbled and left Discovery indicating 20 miles remaining. That's when the mind turned to mush, managed one foot forward - repeat. 4 miles till this madness ends, look right and the great heat tab in the sky was setting when get home itis took over. At Franklin & Elk Grove I blew a red light, accelerated hard (still had no idea where the energy came from - angled 20 degrees and cleared a Silverado. Rolled into the driveway and felt like my guts were pukein through my chest. 3.5 peanut butter / Nello sandwiches, one snickers, 6 liters of water and I lost 2.5 lbs. I'll sleep well tonight.
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Postby artwebb » Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:41 am

My usual twenty on the eliptical.

Jeanne did fiteen, then ten, then seven min rides.
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Re: Century Ride

Postby Fenlason » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:03 am

mk10108 wrote:Image

Finished my century ride. Left the house and headed to Discovery Park via Freeport. Broke a spoke and Lizzee at City Bicycle works had me spinning in 15 minutes. Rolled into Discovery with 20.8 on the OD, Thirty miles later and a repaired flat, did a U turn into the wind. Going strong through 70 miles when the thighs... grumbled and left Discovery indicating 20 miles remaining. That's when the mind turned to mush, managed one foot forward - repeat. 4 miles till this madness ends, look right and the great heat tab in the sky was setting when get home itis took over. At Franklin & Elk Grove I blew a red light, accelerated hard (still had no idea where the energy came from - angled 20 degrees and cleared a Silverado. Rolled into the driveway and felt like my guts were pukein through my chest. 3.5 peanut butter / Nello sandwiches, one snickers, 6 liters of water and I lost 2.5 lbs. I'll sleep well tonight.


Nice.. :thumbsup:

It's early for a century ride here.. we've been in snow for a while. Although we have had an amazing start so far this spring.

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Postby Fenlason » Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:10 pm

We did a group club ride in the snow today. We had 15 people despite the cold and snow.. :thumbsup: It was a slower more casual ride, we had some newbies. I rode back and forth from the front to the back..and back to the front.. getting some extra miles in.

We then had our end of the season ice racing championships. We stud up our mountain bike tires.. and race on an indoor hockey rink.. :D
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Re: Century Ride

Postby mk10108 » Sun Mar 21, 2010 11:26 pm

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Finished my century ride. Left the house and headed to Discovery Park via Freeport. Broke a spoke and Lizzee at City Bicycle works had me spinning in 15 minutes. Rolled into Discovery with 20.8 on the OD, Thirty miles later and a repaired flat, did a U turn into the wind. Going strong through 70 miles when the thighs... grumbled and left Discovery indicating 20 miles remaining. That's when the mind turned to mush, managed one foot forward - repeat. 4 miles till this madness ends, look right and the great heat tab in the sky was setting when get home itis took over. At Franklin & Elk Grove I blew a red light, accelerated hard (still had no idea where the energy came from - angled 20 degrees and cleared a Silverado. Rolled into the driveway and felt like my guts were pukein through my chest. 3.5 peanut butter / Nello sandwiches, one snickers, 6 liters of water and I lost 2.5 lbs. I'll sleep well tonight.


Recovery ride in the flats today with the slow group, They showed no mercy; held it together until the 6 mile mark and was unceremoniously dumped. Worked the micro downhills and thinking about minimizing my losses. Short rest and off again with their lead increasing. At 11 miles the snickers kicked in and showed 20 mph while making progress closing the gap. Another break and BS discussion, but just enough rest to recover. Final step off and I was mid pack and stayed in the draft. Last quarter mile and lead broke away. I accelerated closed the gap and made my presence known by edging a wheel ahead of leads best effort. Hard day and can say I never would have though it humanly possible to ride a century and the next day follow up with recovery ride.
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Postby artwebb » Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:57 am

No posts today? Yesterday I was too tired to even report, plus nothing to report, since it was my off day.
Jeanne did one set of ten and one of twelve.

Today my new normal workout, twenty mins and two circuits of resistance.
Jeanne two ten min rides.
Jeanne is feeling depressed. Today we went to her endocrinologist and she weighed at one pound heavier than last time she was there, and she's been working hard at not overeating and exercise, her clothes are fitting looser, she was sure she'd lost some weight, now she's depressed.
Forgive me, but god DAMN the 'fitness' industry for all the 'weight loss = fitness BS they hand out every day. Eat right and do this and you could lose ten lbs a week.
Yeah, right. In what universe. I don't CARE that I've not lost weight, I know I'm getting healthier.
Who is really more fit, a lean, chiseled guy or gal who collapses after a fifteen min walk, or a pudgy guy who can run five miles?
And yet the weight loss industry preys on people every day 'lose more weight, get more buffed, look beautiful'
Bastards.
I wish she understood deep down like I do that getting in CONDITION is more important than SHAPE, and sometimes you have to get in condition (especially if you spent fifteen years vegetating as much as possible) before your shape is gonna change.
Sorry for rant and rough language, but my wife spent most of the day crying and feeling inadequate and depressed, and seeing that HURTS and I'm PISSED about it
Sorry
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Postby Fenlason » Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:28 am

I did no specific exercise.. I put in a long day working.. and also tired from the weekends activity, I played hookie.

mk10108 your last ride sounded a little intense for a pure recovery ride.

Art.. sorry for your wife's difficulties. It is quite a racket.

Some don't realize.. that going from couch potatoe to fitness... it can take a bit of work, just to stop gaining weight.

If you were in a spot where you were steadily increasing in weight. It can take a bit, just to stay where you are... and to not keep increasing.

It takes time to safely gain the fitness, to be able to do more work. It takes time... but the only "real" option is to keep moving forward.

I definately prefer fitness vs. a beach body..functional fitness vs show muscles.
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Postby mk10108 » Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:21 am

artwebb wrote:No posts today? Yesterday I was too tired to even report, plus nothing to report, since it was my off day.
Jeanne did one set of ten and one of twelve.

Today my new normal workout, twenty mins and two circuits of resistance.
Jeanne two ten min rides.
Jeanne is feeling depressed. Today we went to her endocrinologist and she weighed at one pound heavier than last time she was there, and she's been working hard at not overeating and exercise, her clothes are fitting looser, she was sure she'd lost some weight, now she's depressed.
Forgive me, but god DAMN the 'fitness' industry for all the 'weight loss = fitness BS they hand out every day. Eat right and do this and you could lose ten lbs a week.
Yeah, right. In what universe. I don't CARE that I've not lost weight, I know I'm getting healthier.
Who is really more fit, a lean, chiseled guy or gal who collapses after a fifteen min walk, or a pudgy guy who can run five miles?
And yet the weight loss industry preys on people every day 'lose more weight, get more buffed, look beautiful'
Bastards.
I wish she understood deep down like I do that getting in CONDITION is more important than SHAPE, and sometimes you have to get in condition (especially if you spent fifteen years vegetating as much as possible) before your shape is gonna change.
Sorry for rant and rough language, but my wife spent most of the day crying and feeling inadequate and depressed, and seeing that HURTS and I'm PISSED about it
Sorry
Art


Art..I know your frustration and look at the 11 billion dollar weight loss industry as nothing more than a vehicle used to separate people from their money with the get out of jail card of "results not typical or will vary".

You must understand that calorie creep takes many years to put weight on and when the decision comes to loose weight it takes time to remove it.

Three things.

First a pound of fat is 3500 calories. This is stored energy. If you have to lose 40 lbs, That's 140,000 calories of stored energy on your body. And NO amount of supplements, equipment or prepared foods will do can remove it other than putting one foot forward then repeat. Which you made the decision to do.

Second, the free calorie burn is about 1500 -1700 calories per day. This occurs just by breathing, casual movement throughout the day. Remember the 140k store energy calories 40 lb of fat have. Many days of stored energy available.

Walking ten minutes will burn 50 calories, why because our bodies are VERY efficient in conserving energy when it comes to movement. We only use 3% of our energy moving forward. So to REDUCE our natural efficiency and INCREASE calorie burn you have to add weight, move faster / longer period of time, or adopt an exercise that burns more calories per hour than your current method - OR lower exertion over a LONGER period of time. The movement triangle calorie burn is weight - speed - time. Vary these parameters to fit your situation.

Third is understanding what Calorie on a food package means. If you eat a small bag of chips, that's about 180 calories. Translation means you have to walk 40 minutes to burn that fuel. Once you start thinking this way, you can make smarter decisions as to what you fuel up with.

Stay with it because you"ll get better physically and mentally.
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Postby Fenlason » Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:45 pm

a wake up workout on the waterrower this morning..

then spin class tonight. :D
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Postby artwebb » Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:33 am

Thanks guys for the kind words.
I was an athlete all my young life, and I know and understand all these things, and try to get them across to her, but of course all the 'experts' have been selling her this garbage for years and because she was a couch potato, she has a hard time dealing with reality.
No way I could have made that rant in front of her, she'd have just felt guilty that she'd caused the rant (she doesn't even get I'm not ranting at her, but to her, sometimes, and takes things out of context)
She is doing much better today, and did three sets of ten minutes on the bike, which the bike's comp says added up to 200 calories all told.
She's expressed an interest in resistance training, too, which will help. (the more lean body mass you have, the higher your daily caloric burn, and you experience an elevated metabolism longer after resistance than just cardio)

I'm glad you guys are willing to put up with my occasional rants, it makes it easier to be patient with her, which makes it less stressful and increases the likelihood she'll stay with it.
I did my usual 20 minutes

BTW, how many calories you burn doing a particular exercise varies. The charts that say you burn 50 calories on a ten min walk assume you weigh around 150 pounds and are walking at a certain speed (usually 3 MPH.) If you walk slower you burn fewer calories, but if you're heavier than that you burn extra, because it takes more fuel to move more mass.
It still takes an awful lot of walking to burn 3500 calories, though, and in addition to being diabetic she's got an extra challenge just because she's a she, as women have genetic issues that makes it harder for them to lose weight.
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Postby mk10108 » Wed Mar 24, 2010 7:25 am

Understand completely. My wife was an athlete, knows the information and still gets depress sometimes. My sister has kooky ideas about weight loss - liver cleansing - berry juice - the list is endless. What I find interesting is these ideas get traction and become accepted mainstream perceived solutions for weight loss. Its almost impossible to inject reason into any conversation about weight loss when the power of warm bread and tasty cheese trumps logic every time.
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Postby Fenlason » Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:34 pm

hmmm warm bread... :D 8)
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