Harbor freight trailer will break and crack over time. ?????

[artwebb]

Professionals with paper vs non professionals w/out paper.
I had three main teachers in my career as a mechanic.
My Father, an old school hot rodder who routinely put certified mechanics to shame (also a certified jet engine tech, but that's another talent, though related.
This man could tune the much maligned 'Quadra Junk' carbs and make them sing, where other certified mechanics have tried to tell me they are untunable junk. This man was my first teacher automotively
Jeff, an ase certified tech of over twenty years experience. He filled many gaps in my knowledge, but was a bit of a prima dona.
Isidoro, who learned his trade in Mexico, where you don't replace parts, you rebuild them.
Jeff was always very strident about knowing more, and that I should never question his assertions, but I caught things that slipped by him, and mistakes he made, more than once.
My dad and Isidoro never acted like they couldn't be wrong, and were always willing to listen to an alternate view.
I know people right know who are 'trained' and certified techs whom I would not let touch my car.
While I have much respect for those who are trained in their profession, it does not follow that they are always right, just as Jeff wasn't always right (although he sure thought he was)
I am impressed by a degree to the extent that the degree holder sounds sensible and doesn't pull the 'I have a degree, so I'm right and you're wrong' crap. a degree doesn't make you right, it increases the chances you're right.
If you approach with that attitude, I lose respect rapidly. If, on the other hand, you educate rather than belittle, my estimate of you goes up both as an authority and a person.
So far among the engineers Whitefish has my attention.
Afreegeek I've found sensible on threads where he actualy speaks about his trade, rather than just throwing in a random comment that stirs the pot without realy saying anything.

[afreegreek]

Professionals with paper vs non professionals w/out paper.
I had three main teachers in my career as a mechanic.
My Father, an old school hot rodder who routinely put certified mechanics to shame (also a certified jet engine tech, but that's another talent, though related.
This man could tune the much maligned 'Quadra Junk' carbs and make them sing, where other certified mechanics have tried to tell me they are untunable junk. This man was my first teacher automotively
Jeff, an ase certified tech of over twenty years experience. He filled many gaps in my knowledge, but was a bit of a prima dona.
Isidoro, who learned his trade in Mexico, where you don't replace parts, you rebuild them.
Jeff was always very strident about knowing more, and that I should never question his assertions, but I caught things that slipped by him, and mistakes he made, more than once.
My dad and Isidoro never acted like they couldn't be wrong, and were always willing to listen to an alternate view.
I know people right know who are 'trained' and certified techs whom I would not let touch my car.
While I have much respect for those who are trained in their profession, it does not follow that they are always right, just as Jeff wasn't always right (although he sure thought he was)
I am impressed by a degree to the extent that the degree holder sounds sensible and doesn't pull the 'I have a degree, so I'm right and you're wrong' crap. a degree doesn't make you right, it increases the chances you're right.
If you approach with that attitude, I lose respect rapidly. If, on the other hand, you educate rather than belittle, my estimate of you goes up both as an authority and a person.
So far among the engineers Whitefish has my attention

problem I've found with educated people is once they get their degree they think they know something. I see guys come out of BCIT and come to work after 4 years of training. when they walk in the door they think they're qualified but soon find out this is not the case. a degree is not the end, it's just the beginning. in the real world, books and theories don't cut it. most of the time they're only enough that you don't sound like a complete jackass when you open your mouth..

I've worked on job sites side by side with union crews. each one of those guys has to have all the tickets and certificates just to work there. journeyman, 3rd year apprentice etc. and these guy are not more skilled, knowledgeable or talented than the nonunion crews. in fact they don't measure up more often than not... maybe thinking you know it all when you get your ticket has something to do with it.

[Larry C]

:roll: Do you guys have any idea how difficult it is to clean up a thread with this many pages....

Keep the personal stuff out of it or I can pull the whole thing.

Miriam,
Please............... Don't pull the whole thread. All this drama is much better than watching TV!!!

[Larwyn]

For those late comers who do not have time to read this entire thread I have sumerized it a bit. Here's eleven pages in a nutshell.

It all started with a question about the possiability of Harbor Freight trailer falling apart.

There were several posts by people who actually own HF trailers stating that they were getting great service from the trailers with no problems. Of course there were the posts from people who never even saw a HF trailer stating that they were nothing but junk.

It quickly turns to a discussion on the safety of towing HF trailers. Seems that according to some, they all are overloaded, without brakes, and towed by vehicles too small for the purpose.

The discussion on brake requirement becomes ridiculous. With one poster insisting that the world should go by California standards. Actually the Cal. standard was first posted as if it were a universal requirement for all trailers everywhere. When it was pointed out that this is not the case, then it was stated that it should be.

One poster becomes frustrated that another refuses to let his misleading comments pass without challenge strikes back explaining that it is not an issue of the trailers falling apart or not having brakes but it is all about the fact that TD owners are too stupid to comply with the towing limits of the tow vehicle.

There is a short discussion of the common use/misuse of certain technical terms which never actually came to a resolution.

Late coming Wise A$$ with nothing of his own to say joins the conversation by quoting one of the frustrated poster’s previous entries. The frustrated poster becomes belligerent at my response to the WA’s reposting of his own comments.

I am declared a small minded fool by the frustrated poster. As he has been wrong about most things I am not surprised by this. DILLIGAF? (Do I Look Like I Give A Flip?)

[madjack]

...warnings issued at least twice...this one is now locked!!!!!!!!
madjack