simply remove the wire from the center terminal on the trailer end, and attach it to the #4 terminal instead. Backup light problem solved, and the TD battery will now charge properly as well...no matter which vehicle you tow with.
Tumbleweed_Tex wrote:Just so I understand correctly…
Are we saying that the 7 pin connector plug on the Mobi is factory sealed, and it is impossible to get inside that plug to move one wire?
dh wrote:Tumbleweed_Tex wrote:Just so I understand correctly…
Are we saying that the 7 pin connector plug on the Mobi is factory sealed, and it is impossible to get inside that plug to move one wire?
If he moves the wire on the Mobi to match the Charger, then he will have to swap every time he swaps to his other TV.
Uncle Chan wrote:dh wrote:Tumbleweed_Tex wrote:Just so I understand correctly…
Are we saying that the 7 pin connector plug on the Mobi is factory sealed, and it is impossible to get inside that plug to move one wire?
If he moves the wire on the Mobi to match the Charger, then he will have to swap every time he swaps to his other TV.
EXACTLY!!!
Uncle Chan wrote:Well, you are both right. The diagram on the Charger plug shows the center post used for backup lamps. Whereas the standard plug configuration (the one on the TD) shows it to be used as an auxillary (AKA, charging).
So, I'll go without charging and just disconnect the wire from the battery. No worries. I always plug in a charger if/when I can anyway.
bobhenry wrote:Uncle Chan wrote:Well, you are both right. The diagram on the Charger plug shows the center post used for backup lamps. Whereas the standard plug configuration (the one on the TD) shows it to be used as an auxillary (AKA, charging).
So, I'll go without charging and just disconnect the wire from the battery. No worries. I always plug in a charger if/when I can anyway.
I know it has been damn near a week since this was posted but I just saw it. What caught my eye is the "AKA Charging statement". Pin 4 in the color diagram I posted IS the charging circuit NOT the auxilary post. The auxillary post is just that "Auxillary" so trailer and truck are "Wrong ??? " The back up lights on the trailer and truck should be the center pin. Pin 4 will provide 12 volts from the tow vehicle to an on board battery (if equiped) and/or 12 volts direct to trailer to use for setting up or while camping (but will run down tows battery unless wired as hot only when key on tow vehicle is in the ON position) !
Tumbleweed_Tex wrote:Exactly, bobhenry, that's what I've been saying...swap the center wire to #4 on the trailer.
The plug on the truck and the plug on the Charger are wired exactly the same, except the center (AUX) pin on the Charger is wired to be hot when the backup lights come on.
(this is for a trailer with surge brakes...the "hot when in reverse" function of this pin is supposed to energize a trailer solenoid to disable the surge brakes, allowing the trailer to be moved in reverse without activating the brakes. The truck may have this same circuit too, some do, some don't. More than likely, it DOES have the circuit, but is equipped with a diode to prevent the back-feeding that the Charger experiences. This is why you've never noticed it. Either way, it really doesn't matter...the center pin will not be used at all with the tear.)
#4 pin on BOTH vehicles is 12V hot when the ignition is turned on. For some reason, the trailer was wired with the CENTER pin going to the battery. Swap that wire from the center pin to #4 on the TRAILER.
Tumbleweed_Tex wrote:WOW...I've never, ever seen a vehicle's 7-pin with the center pin hooked to 12V...not sealed from the factory. If you tow a U-haul, a large boat trailer, a stock trailer...anything equipped with surge brakes and a 5-pin connector, the trailer brakes won't work at all. Sounds like a wonderful lawsuit waiting to happen. Ford actually DID that?
Still...I stand corrected...
Um...if I can ask...how do you know the trailer's battery is charging while towing with the F-150?
Dale M. wrote:Enlist some help from fellow TT hauler and change F-150 and TD to match specifications on "Charger".... Problem solved.... Its that simple...
Dale
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