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Postby Arne » Tue Dec 27, 2005 10:52 pm

I like the looks of your frame.. enough, but not too much....
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Postby Greg M » Tue Dec 27, 2005 11:22 pm

Hi Micro,

Where'd you find those. It would be nice to find a Canadian product to save on the cross border shipping hassles.

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Micro469 wrote:Maybe you can use these... looks Like you don't even need an axle. They look like they bolt onto the frame
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Postby bledsoe3 » Wed Dec 28, 2005 2:23 am

Here is my frame.
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Postby Norm » Wed Dec 28, 2005 10:49 am

Hey Greg M., try www.princessauto.com
It's a Canadian supplier.
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Postby Juneaudave » Wed Dec 28, 2005 2:52 pm

I haven't been building yet, but am looking pretty closely at widening Andrew's cub (Thanks Andrew). Here's the plan sheet modified and detailed to fit the Dextor axle I already have (59 inchs out-to-out on the frame face). I'm really looking for lightweight as my tow vehice is a Honda Element rated at 150 tongue and 1500 gross.Image
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Postby Micro469 » Thu Dec 29, 2005 1:51 am

Hi Greg, Princess Auto is in Ontario, Don't know about the rest of our great country. It's good to buy Canadian once in a while.....
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Postby critter » Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:48 pm

ok guys,
sounds like the 1 1/2 stuff aint enough! i want the frame to be heavy duty enough for off road and it probaly aint,so ill cut it up and get some 2x2x1/4 for the frame.next ? am i making a bo bo by useing the stubb axles.whuddya think? :roll:
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Postby madjack » Thu Dec 29, 2005 1:08 pm

Critter...since you have to have a cross member to mount the stub axles on, what is their advantage...if you going to be doing off-roading, you might want to consider a 3500# axle with springs and shocks...you could remove a leaf to get the weight carrying factor right and have the heavier tube for off road strength
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Postby Nitetimes » Thu Dec 29, 2005 1:09 pm

critter wrote:also my axle is 2X2 X3/16 tubing w/1 1/2 stubb axles welded in.has anyone else tryed this? and what is your thoughts?


A lot of axles are made this way just make sure you burn or drill some holes in the tube so you can weld the rear of the stub in the tube. The only drawback is that unless you have a way to bow the tube a little in the middle you will have no camber in the wheels.(laying it in the driveway with a thin block under each end and driving over it comes to mind) Not a big deal, however it makes the highway towing a bit less stable, you might get a little sway.
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Postby critter » Thu Dec 29, 2005 1:41 pm

hey all,
i thought about welding the back of the stub axle by drilling 4 1/2 holes about 5 in back,but i didnt think about bending the axle tube,do you think bending would be necessary,already bought the 1500 lb leaf springs w/mounting kit.
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Postby madjack » Thu Dec 29, 2005 1:46 pm

the camber that the bend provides will help with trailer stability when towing...it will help prevent swaying...all you need is just the slightest of bends...upwards at dead center of axle...if you can't get this bend accurately, it is probably better to not do a bend at all...
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Postby critter » Thu Dec 29, 2005 1:53 pm

hey all
being that the tube im usig for axle is 3/16 thick i think itll be kinda hard to bend,or is it something it would be worth taking to town to get it bent?
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Postby madjack » Thu Dec 29, 2005 2:02 pm

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm :thinking: personally I would prefer it but I don't know how worth it, it is(really hate a swaying trailer though)...if you do decide on bending, remember that only a slight bend is necessary...like 5degrees...and remember to locate top dead center when mounting axle stubs...the bend goes up when mounting...
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Postby critter » Thu Dec 29, 2005 2:08 pm

hey madjack,
how much sway are you thinkin about.i want to go highway speeds.
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Postby Nitetimes » Thu Dec 29, 2005 2:26 pm

It's hard to say, you might not get any then again it might be enough to be annoying. Unlikely that it would be enough to be dangerous tho. I'd say you could mount it and tow it and see how it works out. You can always take it off and put a bow in it.
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