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Postby Shadow Catcher » Wed Oct 20, 2010 5:07 pm

Steel or alloy wheels? Could be a weight saving.
Hot dip galvanized?

My first impression is that it does not look like it is over engineered/too heavy/tank like. I do not know what constraints you have as to steel gauge but you might be able to go lighter gauge and still maintain integrity. If I remember correctly the tongue is EU regulated heavily the rest not as much.
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Postby Classic Finn » Wed Oct 20, 2010 5:22 pm

Shadow Catcher wrote:Steel or alloy wheels? Could be a weight saving.
Hot dip galvanized?

My first impression is that it does not look like it is over engineered/too heavy/tank like. I do not know what constraints you have as to steel gauge but you might be able to go lighter gauge and still maintain integrity. If I remember correctly the tongue is EU regulated heavily the rest not as much.


The chassis is very basic in my opinion. And as you say its not at all tank like. Here galvanizing is a huge thing in popularity. The wheels will be alloy and easily found. As compared to the American Classic wheels.

Also the rest of the body is concerned we will use alufibre not aluminum nor fiberglass. With sandwich style building. As opposed to using full ply.

I mentioned the alufibre technical data here someplace too. Its some of the aluminum moulding that in my opinion is going to be a littel tough to find even though Ive got some good resources found on this side of the pond already but not to my liking 100 percent. As in the States. But it will do and will look fairly good. ;)

Thank you for the input my friend. :thumbsup:
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Postby High Desert » Wed Oct 20, 2010 6:00 pm

Classic Finn wrote:
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High Desert wrote:Congrats Heikki. :thumbsup:

I know you've been working on this for a while now. Looks great, what was the final weight on it?


Hi Shaun back to you on the chassis. It is 123 kilograms. :) Or its 270 lbs.

Also Im already thinking it can still be lighter in weight. We,ll see. But its the axle,wheels and tires that give it most of the weight on this which of course is logical. ;)


Excellent! :thumbsup:


What do you think Shaun could it be lighter? :)

I think Shadow Catcher voiced any thoughts I may have Heikki. Looks good to me, clean and simple. From what you've mentioned before about EU regs, looks like you have it down close to minimum and 270lbs sounds good from my view. And I like the sounds of your plans for the other materials. I'm no engineer, just an old fixer of broken things. But when I build a TD frame I'll be coming back to these pics for reference. 8)
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Postby Shadow Catcher » Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:32 pm

I think you have the right idea using alufiber or FRP i.e. Filon as an exterior. Stress skin construction and keeping weight down while maintaining integrity.
One possibility for flooring would be to use Compositec http://www.compositek-inc.com/superdek.htm or something similar, it would reduce weight and not be subject to rot. Given a choice this would be my pick. It was developed by Kaiser for use in aircraft. Forest River is using it in their RV's.
One of the down falls of Eye4Design is that no two Mega-Mini's were the same, great for the customer, but it meant that they never got into a profitable production. I made suggestions to speed up the process i.e. do a wiring loom which can be done on a sheet of plywood, label the terminals... rather than running individual wires. The MM is a fantastic product and cutting edge (except for the floor :roll: ) but you have to be able to not lose money!
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Postby jb » Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:19 am

nice frame, i didn't think of bolting my frame together. i was planning of letting a friend (who can weld) weld my frame but he can't wel alluminium so it would be a steel frame.
now i've seen this option i can look to allimium again.

but ain't it stiffer to weld your frame??
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Postby Classic Finn » Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:58 pm

jb wrote:nice frame, i didn't think of bolting my frame together. i was planning of letting a friend (who can weld) weld my frame but he can't wel alluminium so it would be a steel frame.
now i've seen this option i can look to allimium again.

but ain't it stiffer to weld your frame??


JB Greetings. Check with Knott and Al-ko for the frames & axles in Holland. :thumbsup: There is hardly any welding on the frame. Its mainly bolted.

Even though welding aluminum here in Finland is very popular. Real professional people found almost anywhere as I think are in Holland as well.
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