Don & Christi's 6 x 10 Cargo Conversion

Converting Cargo Trailers into TTTs

Postby GPW » Sun Oct 10, 2010 6:18 pm

Very Cool!!! ... much more floor space ... 8) :thumbsup:
Don , may I suggest a small cargo net at the foot of each bunk for pillows /blankets . etc. Very Handy ... Inexpensive , light, and out of the way storage ...
Some nice sofa type pillows will make the bottom bunk into a nice sofa ... and you could even mount the upper on a pivot in the back and fold it up and hook it during the day ... Just like on the train ... every little bit of space counts ... :thumbsup:
There’s no place like Foam !
User avatar
GPW
Gold Donating Member
 
Posts: 14920
Images: 546
Joined: Thu Feb 09, 2006 7:58 pm
Location: New Orleans

Postby d30gaijin » Sun Oct 10, 2010 8:17 pm

GPW wrote:Very Cool!!! ... much more floor space ... 8) :thumbsup:
Don , may I suggest a small cargo net at the foot of each bunk for pillows /blankets . etc. Very Handy ... Inexpensive , light, and out of the way storage ...
Some nice sofa type pillows will make the bottom bunk into a nice sofa ... and you could even mount the upper on a pivot in the back and fold it up and hook it during the day ... Just like on the train ... every little bit of space counts ... :thumbsup:


GPW,

Excellent ideas and I thank you for them! :applause:

I'm not sure about making the upper bunk pivoting due the the limits imposed by E-Track system design but it is easily doable to remove the upper bunk and then make a reclined back for the lower that will allow us to use the lower as a sofa during the day (with some stowed cushions per your suggestion). That is an excellent idea that will give us even more room during the day with an easily setupable (sp?) upper bunk when time comes to go to bed.

All in all a lot more options with the bunks.

Don
User avatar
d30gaijin
Titanium Donating Member
 
Posts: 594
Images: 139
Joined: Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:27 pm
Location: Boise, Idaho

Heading Out For Cold Weather Camping

Postby d30gaijin » Wed Oct 20, 2010 8:56 pm

OK, got the bunk beds installed and 4" 40 pound foam mattresses cut to fit. We'll be heading out this weekend (10/22/2010) for a cold weather camping trip to the Hagerman Valley/1000 Springs Area of south west Idaho for some birding, camping and to try out the new bunks. We now have lots more room inside the 6x10 CT thanks to the bunk beds.

After our trial run over Labor Day Weekend we learned a lot, reconfigured the layout based on what we learned, and learned how to pack, and cook a lot smarter. This will be a dry camping (boondocking) trip, no facilities available where we're headed so we will be self contained. Needless to say it will be our first experience at dry camping so expect to learn a lot from it. We're only going for two nights and three days.

We have the Honda EU2000i generator on board, a two burner Brunton propane camp stove, five gallons of water (hygiene will be bird baths), and a propane heater to be used only while awake.

Food wise we are preparing most meals in advance, a big batch of eggs/sausage/red peppers/green chilis/mushrooms/onions for breakfast burritos, fajitas for evening meals, and pre-made hamburgers for snacks/lunch. All foods we can easily heat up in the microwave after firing up the Honda generator. As to anything else, well we'll cook it on the propane stove. Nights will be cold, mid to upper 20's in terms of temps where we are going, so are outfitting with down comforters (no heater inside the CT at night).

So that's the latest update on our CT conversion, which is by no means done yet but it is at the point we can get out camping and learn, reconfigure, camp some more, learn, reconfigure as necessary, and eventually finish our CT conversion to meet our needs.

Don
Image
User avatar
d30gaijin
Titanium Donating Member
 
Posts: 594
Images: 139
Joined: Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:27 pm
Location: Boise, Idaho
Top

hello Don

Postby Camper » Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:26 pm

Looking good there!!!!!Keep up the good work
Derrick :applause:
Camper
Teardrop Builder
 
Posts: 30
Images: 34
Joined: Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:23 pm
Location: Boise Idaho
Top

Postby GPW » Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:08 am

Comfy looking bunks Don !!! Have Fun on your trip !!!! :thumbsup:
There’s no place like Foam !
User avatar
GPW
Gold Donating Member
 
Posts: 14920
Images: 546
Joined: Thu Feb 09, 2006 7:58 pm
Location: New Orleans
Top

Postby pete42 » Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:14 am

Nice!
User avatar
pete42
Super Lifetime Member
 
Posts: 2203
Images: 13
Joined: Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:52 am
Location: SouthWest Ohio
Top

Postby WA » Sat Oct 23, 2010 9:15 pm

hope it is a great trip!
Best,
WA
WA
Teardrop Builder
 
Posts: 32
Joined: Sat May 02, 2009 9:59 pm
Location: Danville, Virginia
Top

A Great Trip!

Postby d30gaijin » Sun Oct 24, 2010 8:44 pm

We're back from our second outing with the CT. This time out we put a bit more thought into our camping, where we wanted to go, what we needed to take along, and planned better for the weather, which turned out different than was predicted. We prepared for fairly cold weather at night (as previously described) and a possibility of rain on Sunday.

We left Boise Friday afternoon about 2pm and drove 95 miles to the Hagerman Valley (Idaho). Upon arrival the weather Friday was gorgeous, upper 60's/low 70's with clear sky. We set the CT up at a great camp spot (more about the camp spot and how we found it later in this post). Late Friday night/early Saturday morning the weather changed, dramatically. Clouds moved in and a slow drizzle began that went through the day Saturday, but that didn't stop us from getting out and touring the beautiful country side.

When we arrived Friday afternoon in Hagerman, ID. we parked the Jeep Cherokee with CT attached and went to a small antique store (RD Antiques) to look around. It was a neat little shop with some nice items, though mostly over priced. Christi found a few small items she wanted so we waited in line to pay for them as the lady who owned the stored chatted with people from California about their purchases and what they could see in the area. One subject that came up as we waited for the California folks to pay for their purchases was RV spots. The lady that owned the store knew the area exceptionally well and gave the CA. folks what seemed like good advice on where to stay. So when we got to the register to pay for what we'd chosen we asked the nice lady about public camping areas in the valley. She asked us what we were camping in and did we need water and electric. We told her about our CT conversion and told her no we wouldn't need water and electric. She proceeded to tell us about a great spot just outside of town, an Idaho Power (the State authorized power agency) boat launching ramp on the Snake River. She said there is parking there for boat launching but there is also ONE RV spot that is available at no cost. She drew us a simple map as to how to find it.

We left the store and followed her map and found a truly great camp site. It was 200 yards off the mighty Snake River and included a vault type toilet 100 yards from our camp site. The true beauty of this trip was that we were the only campers there the entire weekend. Three boat launchers showed up early Saturday morning, only one Saturday evening, and one on Sunday morning and all gone by dark of each day. Other than that we had the place to ourselves the entire weekend. I'd call that being beautifully lucky!

The first photo below shows the view from our camp site to the Snake River late Friday evening, with the public toilet facility in view :NC. The second photo shows the view looking east from our camp spot. The third and fourth photos show our CT setup at the camp site. The fifth photo shows one of a Thousand Springs waterfalls, which are remarkable in that they do not originate from a river above, rather the water comes out of the lava rock after it has traveled hundreds of miles below ground along the Snake River Plane Aquifer. It is called Thousand Springs because the water exits the lava rock in a thousand (approximate) places along the bluffs that feed to the Snake River below.

So a few more things we learned this trip... the bunk beds were a great idea. It drizzled all day Saturday during our day trips away from our CT base camp site. In the evening we had plenty of room inside to write in our travel journal, cook, and relax (I didn't make pre-made hamburgers for the trip like I planned so I cooked up a batch of Sloppy Joe's inside the CT on the Brunton two burner camp stove). The weather, thanks to the cloud cover and rain, wasn't as cold as expected so the propane tank heater you can see in the photos wasn't needed and was really just extra weight to haul along. We used our small electrical resistance heater with fan and it was more than adequate. We need to build some cabinets, shelving, and a fold up/down table to sit at (we took along a 2x4 foot collapsible/folding table but could have easily gotten away with something smaller).

Late Saturday night/Sunday morning it rained heavily, and rained heavily all day Sunday. When parked we experienced no leaks but driving the 95 miles home found a couple of leaks at the front end of the CT when we arrived, not serious but obvious. It appears water is coming in around some of the upper external parking/clearance lights so they will need to be checked and recaulked (our CT was bought used and is a 2001 model that has some miles on it).

What I also learned: The three most important accessories we have bought so far, in order of importance; the Honda EU2000i generator (because the following two are only good if we have it), the cheap ($150) Sears dorm refrigerator (stuff the ice box with pre-frozen reusable freezer packs and it acts like a cooler during travel or when parked and no power is going to it), and the cheap ($90) 800 Watt microwave oven (we can cook most anything in it... maybe not our first choice in cooking some foods but we can cook the necessities in it or heat water to wash faces/hands/dishes/etc.).

Don
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image
User avatar
d30gaijin
Titanium Donating Member
 
Posts: 594
Images: 139
Joined: Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:27 pm
Location: Boise, Idaho
Top

Postby GPW » Mon Oct 25, 2010 5:25 am

WOW!!! What a Great Trip !!!! :thumbsup: 8)
There’s no place like Foam !
User avatar
GPW
Gold Donating Member
 
Posts: 14920
Images: 546
Joined: Thu Feb 09, 2006 7:58 pm
Location: New Orleans
Top

Postby d30gaijin » Mon Oct 25, 2010 8:37 pm

GPW wrote:WOW!!! What a Great Trip !!!! :thumbsup: 8)


GPW,

One thing that helped to make it a great trip was taking your advice about making the lower bunk into a sofa. While the upper bunk isn't set up to fold down it was a simple matter to remove the upper bunk forward 2x4 support, stow it away, and drop the upper bunk into a vertical position with the bunk foam mattress acting as a "lean back into" sofa. We took along extra pillows so they doubled as sofa cushions. That freed up more space in that Christi could sit on the sofa (lower bunk) with no overhead limitations and lean back into the pillows to relax while I sat in a chair in the CT open area giving us much more extra room inside, which was welcomed due to the rainy weather outside. I'll have to give it some thought as to how to make the upper bunk more fold-downable using the E-Track system but no doubt there is a way. Be that as it may, it was not at all difficult to disassemble the upper bunk to make the lower into a sofa.

Thank you for a great idea! :applause:

Don
User avatar
d30gaijin
Titanium Donating Member
 
Posts: 594
Images: 139
Joined: Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:27 pm
Location: Boise, Idaho
Top

Postby GPW » Tue Oct 26, 2010 5:23 am

Don, so glad everything worked out !!! You got me thinking about the folding bunk thing ... How about a length of 1 1/2" EMT secured with those half circle clamps to the bed side , the EMT would fit in the E -track and form a pivot ... I can do a drawing of you like ...
There’s no place like Foam !
User avatar
GPW
Gold Donating Member
 
Posts: 14920
Images: 546
Joined: Thu Feb 09, 2006 7:58 pm
Location: New Orleans
Top

Postby pete42 » Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:42 am

GPW wrote:Don, so glad everything worked out !!! You got me thinking about the folding bunk thing ... How about a length of 1 1/2" EMT secured with those half circle clamps to the bed side , the EMT would fit in the E -track and form a pivot ... I can do a drawing of you like ...



I like it when others come up different ideas ones that spark the imagination.
User avatar
pete42
Super Lifetime Member
 
Posts: 2203
Images: 13
Joined: Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:52 am
Location: SouthWest Ohio
Top

Postby GPW » Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:53 am

OK, here's an idea ... Fold up bunk using E-track http://tnttt.com/album_ ... c_id=72324

Or perhaps it could pivot down to form the sofa back ... :thinking:
There’s no place like Foam !
User avatar
GPW
Gold Donating Member
 
Posts: 14920
Images: 546
Joined: Thu Feb 09, 2006 7:58 pm
Location: New Orleans
Top

Postby d30gaijin » Wed Oct 27, 2010 7:25 pm

GPW wrote:Don, so glad everything worked out !!! You got me thinking about the folding bunk thing ... How about a length of 1 1/2" EMT secured with those half circle clamps to the bed side , the EMT would fit in the E -track and form a pivot ... I can do a drawing of you like ...


GPW,

Not sure I understand what you're getting at. What is EMT and what half circle clamps are you referring to? A drawing would be very helpful and truly appreciated. You have come up with a lot of great ideas I hope to exploit. :twisted:

Might you have any thoughts on where I can buy some cabinetry, like a simple pre-made overhead double cabinet I can attach to the inside wall of the CT? Thoughts on a fold down table design?

I'm rethinking installing a shower inside the CT as it likely will take up too much space so I am considering an external shower, tent type, and installing the shower/faucet fixture I bought external to the CT like our Jayco trailers have, something I find also very handy for washing dishes outside of the Jayco.

Don
User avatar
d30gaijin
Titanium Donating Member
 
Posts: 594
Images: 139
Joined: Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:27 pm
Location: Boise, Idaho
Top

Postby d30gaijin » Wed Oct 27, 2010 7:45 pm

GPW wrote:OK, here's an idea ... Fold up bunk using E-track http://tnttt.com/album_ ... c_id=72324

Or perhaps it could pivot down to form the sofa back ... :thinking:


GPW,

Sent that last message before I saw your latest post... sorry for that.

I'm not sure I totally understand your drawing as it relates to the E Track but I think I am getting the general idea. In order to pivot down I would need to use the E Track 2x4 mounts (the metal mounts that attach to the E Track rail and take the 2x4) but to do that I would need a 4" diameter pipe, and that won't fit withing the E Track 2x4 mount since it is only 2" wide (4" tall) in order for the upper bunk to be level front to rear... OOPS! Reconsidering that... it could be 2" diameter (actually 1 3/4" since a 2x4 is not a 2x4) with a spacer in the bottom of the E Track 2x4 support to bring it up to height. Hmmm... food for thought! :thinking:

Don
User avatar
d30gaijin
Titanium Donating Member
 
Posts: 594
Images: 139
Joined: Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:27 pm
Location: Boise, Idaho
Top

PreviousNext

Return to Cargo Trailer Conversions

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 8 guests