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Postby planovet » Fri Mar 18, 2011 1:18 am

48Rob wrote: Can you tell me what era the bayonet that is on the far left is?


Those are not my guns, I found the picture on the web. That being said, that bayonet looks like one from a Russian Mosin Nagant rifle. I have one somewhere...

My gun collection does look eerily similar though. Right now I'm in my WW2 gun collecting stage. I have US, British, Swiss and Russian WW2 era rifles and I am working on German and Japanese.

caseydog wrote:Cat, i worry about the fact that you know where I live. I hope your wife will call me if you go postal. I don't want to make CNN for having a dog avatar on a camping forum.


I don't think you have anything to worry about Dog. I'm pretty stable and going postal is an unlikely option. I also consider you a friend so you are pretty safe.
Now, if the liberals in Washington ever want to take my guns away from me then you better watch out :roll: :lol:
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Postby hiker chick » Fri Mar 18, 2011 7:01 am

A capsulation of unlikely but not unanticipated mega-disaster scenarios in today's Washington Post. These are the extreme scenarios.

Prepping for the comparatively mundane -- power outages due to thunderstorms, tornados, hurricanes or water supply disruptions because of a pipe failure -- would prove invaluable if someday at the epicenter or periphery of a large-scale event.

Can't count on the government helping for several days. In the interim, it'd be nice to be self-reliant and able to help friends and neighbors.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/ ... story.html

Japan’s ‘black swan’: Scientists ponder the unparalleled dangers of unlikely disasters


...The next big disaster could be something off the radar of most Americans. A solar flare, for example, could trigger a geomagnetic storm that could knock out much of the nation’s power grid. Or an earthquake could hit an East Coast city not generally considered vulnerable to a major temblor. That sounds like paranoia, but mainstream scientists and government officials research such things.




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Postby 48Rob » Fri Mar 18, 2011 7:16 am

48Rob wrote:
Can you tell me what era the bayonet that is on the far left is?



Those are not my guns, I found the picture on the web. That being said, that bayonet looks like one from a Russian Mosin Nagant rifle. I have one somewhere...

My gun collection does look eerily similar though. Right now I'm in my WW2 gun collecting stage. I have US, British, Swiss and Russian WW2 era rifles and I am working on German and Japanese.


Thank you Mark.

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Postby stumphugger » Fri Mar 18, 2011 7:32 am

I also have a few cans of dog food stowed away. I figure I can mix the dogfood with left over people food and feed my Chocolate Lab. He is not a hunter. The cat? That boy is a great hunter. I've got a few cans of cat food too just in case. For the cat, I mean.
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Postby hiker chick » Fri Mar 18, 2011 7:43 am

Let's hope Japan isn't to nuclear safety what China is to food safety, but this article below certainly raises the specter.

I'm hopeful that the U.S. nuclear regulatory system is better. But earthquake faults often are not discovered until after an earthquake occurs (Cal Northridge 1994). And far more is known now about earthquake potential around the country than was known when America's wave of nuclear plant construction was going on a few decades ago.

Still, I'm a fan of nuclear power generation. With a lot of paranoid safety redundancies built in.


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-03-1 ... dents.html


Japan Nuclear Disaster Caps Decades of Faked Reports

By Jason Clenfield - Mar 18, 2011 4:52 AM ET

The unfolding disaster at the Fukushima nuclear plant follows decades of falsified safety reports, fatal accidents and underestimated earthquake risk in Japan’s atomic power industry.

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Postby eamarquardt » Fri Mar 18, 2011 7:57 am

planovet wrote:
48Rob wrote: Can you tell me what era the bayonet that is on the far left is?


Those are not my guns, I found the picture on the web. That being said, that bayonet looks like one from a Russian Mosin Nagant rifle. I have one somewhere...

My gun collection does look eerily similar though. Right now I'm in my WW2 gun collecting stage. I have US, British, Swiss and Russian WW2 era rifles and I am working on German and Japanese.

caseydog wrote:Cat, i worry about the fact that you know where I live. I hope your wife will call me if you go postal. I don't want to make CNN for having a dog avatar on a camping forum.


I don't think you have anything to worry about Dog. I'm pretty stable and going postal is an unlikely option. I also consider you a friend so you are pretty safe.
Now, if the liberals in Washington ever want to take my guns away from me then you better watch out :roll: :lol:


Texans!!!!!!! I just have a Ruger 22 pistol, Browing Hi-Power, Mossberg 22 LR, Ruger 10-22, and a Winchester 12 gauge.

When I was "confined" in the insane asylum, they never asked about them, but that is another story!

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Postby Wolffarmer » Fri Mar 18, 2011 8:05 am

I have lived many years in an old trailer house. I think you will find that trailer trash people tend to store water than people that live in houses. I do have a lot of water stored and I am always saving containers to store more. Harmful crap leaching out of them be damned. Where I live about the worst thing that can happen is to lose the power grid in the winter. Unless the INL ( Idaho Nuclear Laboratory ) has a major accident. They are about 60-80 miles from me. They test new designs there. Fortunately they are usually smallish ones.

Caution rant mode on

In reading the first link that Anti M posted and remembering many many problems in the business world it seems many problems are caused by management ignoring problems brought to their attention as it will cost to much to fix. Which will then impact their bonuses. After they are caught they are then often allowed to resign from the company and often get a nice severance package for screwing up the company and the public.

Perhaps one of the first things we need to do to increase safety is to do something about what is called "The bonuses culture". Seems like these days wage paid to upper management is just for them to show up to work occasionally. If they do anything they then get a bonuses.

PS bonuses also includes stock options.

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Postby Wolffarmer » Fri Mar 18, 2011 8:07 am

Gus

So now you have a certificate saying you are sane? Unlike the rest of us!

8)

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Postby alffink » Fri Mar 18, 2011 8:08 am

Hikerchick

Your Solar Flare senario is not too far fetched
not too far back, even tech wise, I beleive it was 1998
A X-class solar flare hit the earths atmosphere over Quebec Canada
this flare disrupted a Transformer Station, bringing down the power grid accross much of Canda along with power in Buffalo NY and many parts of the Great Lakes region

Oh, our sun is just now leaving an extended period of Solar minimum (low activity) and is quickly becoming quite active, withSolar Max still a few Years away, four to five years at most, we have seen the sun erupt with several powerful Flares in just the last few weeks, the earth has been pretty lucky as to not having a direct hit as yet, but the odds say that it is only a matter of time and the number of sunspots, Which are becoming more common every week.

For those that only know the sun through the disaster movies, a solar flare is simply a magnetic discharge, this is not the Gama Ray Burst, that comes from a dying star, we won't have to worry about that and Our sun for another 2 to 3 Billion years, so we have plenty of time to worry about that one in a later e-mail ;)
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Postby eamarquardt » Fri Mar 18, 2011 8:29 am

Wolffarmer wrote:Gus

So now you have a certificate saying you are sane? Unlike the rest of us!

8)

Randy


I have a "tacit" certificate. They let me out, twice!!!!!!! Actually my anxiety/depression was a "reaction" to a medication (legitimately prescribed) I had been taking for the chronic pain I experience (Google "Suicide Disease" and that is the "tip of my neurological iceberg"). I met some interesting folks while "visiting" the insane asylum and recieved 17 ECTs (arguably malpractice according to doctors I saw later). ECTs are no fun! The SOB that treated me with them would still be "tuning me up" once a month if I hadn't told him where to get off! He also told me I'd be on "meds" the rest of my life. I went eight years med free but recently returned to the use of opiates on a very limited basis to help aleviate the pain.

The most recent doctors to read my "history" are amazed I'm alive, married, speaking with my sons, and trying to be productive, ha! I'm living every abusers dream as my pain specialist will give me virtually anything I desire, ha!

Sometimes down, but not out!

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Postby mvperini » Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:04 am

Beer........home brew :lol:


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Postby john warren » Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:38 am

mikeschn wrote:Thanks Rob,

I'll have to see if I've learned anything since 2004... :?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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mike i'm just up the road from you in beautiful down town oxford, gravel capital of the world and home of brace beemer, the original radio lone ranger. :thumbsup:
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Postby Wolffarmer » Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:38 am

mvperini wrote:Beer........home brew :lol:


Mike


Add a recliner and you are all set. Make the world go away

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Interconnectedness

Postby Engineer Guy » Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:01 am

NOAA is just up the road from us and outputs sophisticated Solar data to Users.

The simplified story is that Solar current induced into terrestrial Power Lines trips protective circuitry, which typically then trips other protective Power Grid circuitry as subsequent/interconnected Breakers trip.

NOAA data Users include Satellite 'Managers'. They turn various Satellites 'away' from predicted/observed Solar currents to minimize damage. There's a need to limit Astronaut exposure, too. Solar Flare currents also affect Satellite-based Ship positions as they try to remain stationary while drilling for Gas/Oil. On and on...

I happened to wander in their 'Control Central' area [visible through Glass] RIGHT when a monster Flare hit a few years back. It looks like any major Newsroom facility with lots of high def Video Monitors. Impressive!

I've been in SoCal for some of the Quakes 'Hiker Chick' mentions. The 'interconnectedness' of the Power Grid was driven home during one Quake while we were here in CO. I heard the loudest Steam Whistle sound from 'somewhere' distant I'd ever heard. The Boulder CO Power Plant was shedding Steam as fast as possible to prevent damage. Power Generation is like a giant 'See Saw'. When the CA Quake caused huge power loads in SoCal to shed, there was excess generating capacity here locally 'with nowhere to go' that had to be shedded to prevent Boiler damage from excess pressure. Having been there in all Seasons, Japan's ability to 'just' power innumerable A/Cs means they don't have a lot of excess capacity 'sitting around'. Neither does CA and the Western Region [including power imported from Canada] in recent Summer heat waves. When Summertime power cutbacks affected giant pre-shipment Veggie Chillers in CA, availability of items like Lettuce dropped and prices rose.

Japanese Reactors ruined by Salt Water inundation represents lost capacity that, as we shall soon see, affects Semiconductor and Vehicle Production capacity; Japanese Citizen discomfort being the larger concern, of course. Japanese imports and future orders of U.S. Beef have changed already. The idea that we can 'let japan worry about japan' doesn't reflect Reality as I know it, as WY Cattlemen might discover 1st person.

'The Thigh Bone connected to the Leg Bone', as the old Song goes...

Japanese Parts Shortage Idles GM Plant

Hiker Chick, and others, make some great points about how the 'familiar' can be the 'gotcha' event that tests Emergency Preparedness. Gas Line ruptures, as happened just this week in TX, and Train derailments can get cha.

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Postby Wolffarmer » Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:08 am

It also seems that the "3 day" of supplies that is recommended is bogus. 7 days should be the minimum a person should be prepared to be on their own.

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