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Postby mvperini » Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:39 pm

The bathroom door does not hit the fridge cabinet in the first design. The real problem is one of "Feelings". It just feels too tight. It is only about 16" of clearance from the bathroom wall to the fridge cabinet. If it was 16" between two countertops it would feel OK. But 16" between a high wall and a countertop feels confining. And thank you for addressing my question. Much appreciated.

the question you need to answer is how long are you going to be in the area of the fridge and the bathroom wall if it is just to go in and out i would live with your first design

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Postby StandUpGuy » Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:44 am

With the wine chiller in place instead of the mini fridge I have a much narrower cabinet. I am considering a fairly radical shift in cabin layout. See below:
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Postby nrody » Tue Jun 07, 2011 5:41 pm

If you change your door design for the restroom to a corrigated or sliding door this may make the space feel more usable.
My concern would be that the "wine cooler" just would not be sufficient to hold enough items that I would want refridgerated. I would end up with a cooler in addition to the refridgerated unit.
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Re: Door design

Postby StandUpGuy » Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:19 pm

nrody wrote:If you change your door design for the restroom to a corrigated or sliding door this may make the space feel more usable.
My concern would be that the "wine cooler" just would not be sufficient to hold enough items that I would want refridgerated. I would end up with a cooler in addition to the refridgerated unit.
I am pretty stoked on the wine chiller. I am not in need of a great amount of fridge space. Just a few drinks and snacks. Everybody is different. From the looks of things here a lot of people are doing some very serious cooking. Not me. I cook enough as it is. Also I am jacked about how cool the wine chillers look. Smoked glass door little red indicator light. I think it will look pretty awesome. Heck I might even put some wine in it! :)
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Postby nrody » Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:48 pm

I think if you like it then got for it's It will look great

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Postby bdosborn » Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:22 pm

StandUpGuy wrote:Is there something I am not thinking of with these wine coolers? No freezer but I can live with that. Little capacity but that would work fine.


I would check what temperature it will cool down to. A guy up the street has one and it doesn't get cold enough to keep beer in. Anything above 40F is unsafe for food.

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Postby StandUpGuy » Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:33 pm

bdosborn wrote:
StandUpGuy wrote:Is there something I am not thinking of with these wine coolers? No freezer but I can live with that. Little capacity but that would work fine.


I would check what temperature it will cool down to. A guy up the street has one and it doesn't get cold enough to keep beer in. Anything above 40F is unsafe for food.

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Yes I had been reading about the temperature. They vary a great deal. Some cool down to 39 degrees and some to 45 degrees. I have also read some complaints about some models not being able to cool down when the ambient temperature is high.
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Postby proformance » Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:02 am

RE: Danby Wine Coolers,

I have owned a Danby DWC276BLS for about 4-years. It successfully cools down to 39deg regardless how much I over stuff with wine and beer. But, it also tends runs for long periods of time and is surely not the quietest appliance in the house. In fact, when the cooler first arrived, it was very noisy. I spent quite a bit of time identifying the root cause of the noise, vibration of some of the internal hard lines. After adding foam and several ty-raps to dampen the vibration, the cooler is now significantly quieter.

Note: There is very little insulation in the perimeter (housing) and I would be concerned with the potential for excessive energy consumption if you are forced to run the unit exclusively from battery power.

One additional consideration;

My Danby cooler tends to emit a considerable amount of heat from the vents located at the base of the front. I suspect this is primarily a result of the how often and how long the pump/motor runs to keep the cooler at 39deg.
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Postby StandUpGuy » Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:24 am

proformance wrote:RE: Danby Wine Coolers,

I have owned a Danby DWC276BLS for about 4-years. It successfully cools down to 39deg regardless how much I over stuff with wine and beer. But, it also tends runs for long periods of time and is surely not the quietest appliance in the house. In fact, when the cooler first arrived, it was very noisy. I spent quite a bit of time identifying the root cause of the noise, vibration of some of the internal hard lines. After adding foam and several ty-raps to dampen the vibration, the cooler is now significantly quieter.

Note: There is very little insulation in the perimeter (housing) and I would be concerned with the potential for excessive energy consumption if you are forced to run the unit exclusively from battery power.

One additional consideration;

My Danby cooler tends to emit a considerable amount of heat from the vents located at the base of the front. I suspect this is primarily a result of the how often and how long the pump/motor runs to keep the cooler at 39deg.


That is some very useful information there, thanks. Clearly this is something I will need to research a bit and also if I buy a unit I will have to run it and consider some ventilation of the unit.
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Postby StandUpGuy » Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:34 pm

Back to my fridge placement issue. (this one is about me!!) :) I have an alternative thought. I was planing on the air conditioner placed above the bathroom on the platform that is created by the ceiling. I was thinking what if I put the AC unit where I inteded the fridge and the fridge where I intended the AC unit?

Disadvantages:
AC unit is moved low in the trailer; bad for cold distribution.

Fridge a little high (59" off of the floor)

Advantages:
Simplifies the sewing of the fabric for the pop up area. No pocket sewn in for the AC unit.

AC unit can be more protected from the elements.

Main reason however, is that the AC unit when slid out would allow for a very narrow cabinet, giving me more walk way spread.
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Postby StandUpGuy » Sat Jun 11, 2011 10:01 pm

What do I really want? I want a narrow electric refrigerator. I want something 15" or less. I looked and looked and it does not exist. It exists as a wine cooler but they have some temperature limitations. They exist as DC powered coolers but they also have temperature limitations. I am at the moment at a stand still on my build. Because of this issue and well...money too. 8)
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Postby bdosborn » Sat Jun 11, 2011 10:09 pm

Why not put the A/C at the front of the trailer so it blows across the bed? That's where I put mine and it works great.

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Postby StandUpGuy » Sat Jun 11, 2011 10:14 pm

bdosborn wrote:Why not put the A/C at the front of the trailer so it blows across the bed? That's where I put mine and it works great.

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My logic was the exact opposite. I was thinking how to get it as far away from the bed as possible.Air blowing on me while I sleep does something to my sinuses or something. This is a prime example of how and why everybodies build is different I suppose. We all have different criteria for the build.
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Postby StandUpGuy » Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:09 pm

In researching the DC powered coolers I was reading about the electronic devices used to cool down the interior of the the cooler. Pretty interesting stuff. In reading it, I find that the cooling device is on electronic gizmo that transfers temperature with heat on one side and cold on the other. This is how many of the commercially produced DC coolr both heat and cool food in them. They reverse polarity to switch the side that is heated vs. cooled. Since these DC cooler cool only relative to the ambient temperature around them, then if the Coolers vent area was located ajacent to an air conditioning unit, then it would cool most effectively while the AC unit was running.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermoelectric_effect
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Postby StandUpGuy » Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:16 pm

One can build one's own refrigerator with this electronic compnent. (and some others)

http://unitednuclear.com/index.php?main ... cts_id=455

Here is a link to building a thermalelectric cooler:

http://electronickits.com/kit/complete/ ... /ck500.pdf
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